K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 1 I believe even if Murray or Joker comes to the net when the
ball is short, they may still make a few UEs... |
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S***e
发帖数: 4426 | 2 murray and joker also have superb hands.
i don't see much difference among them in this aspect. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 3 I don't know how much you follow Murray, but if Murray has as
good volley/overhead skills as Nadal, he won't be nervous in
so many matches.
He was nervous because he is not confident about going to the net.
Under pressure he don't have another reliable game plan option.
The same goes with Joker. If his baseline doesn't work, there isn't
much he could do. |
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w********r
发帖数: 1397 | 4 Agree. Joker had a better performance at most of the crucial shots when he n
eeded, however Fed fell short in this aspect during last night game. |
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S***e
发帖数: 4426 | 5 that's only because nadal has better baseline shot, which gives
him a easier volley. nothing about the volley skill.
i think under pressure (i.e., one was brought to net by the opponent)
nadal, murray, joker, or even federer have similar volley skills. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 6 Nobody knows for sure what Joker's racket is. It is custom made
based on LM Radical MP's mold.
topspin
overpower |
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g*****n
发帖数: 76 | 7 i think tennis is more a game of movement and timing than stroke techniques.
Fed can not match up with joker in these two areas now. He can win only
when he serves better. |
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d****t
发帖数: 1284 | 8 他的正手已经不如巅峰时期了。前两天tennis channel放2005 indian wells决赛ff vs
一休，
他的正反手的速度和爆发力都已经没有了， 而且移动也慢了不少。
我觉得05年的ff比现在的joker还是要强不少的。 |
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 9 I agree.
Federer in his prime time is not matchable by current top players yet.
他的正手已经不如巅峰时期了。前两天tennis channel放2005 indian wells决赛ff vs
一休，
他的正反手的速度和爆发力都已经没有了， 而且移动也慢了不少。
我觉得05年的ff比现在的joker还是要强不少的。 |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 10 It might be true... but only on hard court. Let's wait and see. The only
possible problem with joker is his health and his adaptability to outside
conditions such as weather. He has to pass Nadal face to face in order to
prove his dominance on hard court |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 11 他们俩击球还是有很大区别的，单反/双反，正手握拍方式，拍面大小，线的tension，
击球spin/平击，plow through/brush完全不同啊。装备是为打法服务的。我觉得joker
的装备非常好的发挥了他的打法，ff的也一样。你把他们俩的装备换一下，保证排名至
少掉5位。当然，他们用乒乓球拍也能赢咱们。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 12 That was not 3 consecutive times. You comfortably forgot the multiple
times Federer beat Joker between US Open 2010 and AO 2011. |
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g*****n
发帖数: 76 | 13 Chairman Mao said: "It is not difficult to play one good game on a day, it
is difficult to play good games day after day."
Sampras dominated because his game has less demand on his body, and he could
win consistently without getting injured. I bet he could still take on any
player ranked afterTop 50th today. On the other hand, I don't think today's
Agassi can beat players in the Pro circuit.
What makes Fed great is also he wins matches without much wear and tear on
his body. His game relies a l... 阅读全帖 |
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 14 agassi的发球跟现在的joker比差了一截吧。反手威力也不行 |
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d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 15 你说的这些算是风格吧。比如过同样是发上拉夫特和老桑还是有区别，可是打法算是同
一种。。。
换了拍子，就是牌面大小，击球感觉不同，线什么的都可以调啊。要让他们适应一段时
间顾及水平差不到那里吧。。。
现在ff的正手比03，04年的时候spin多了很多了。
joker |
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u*********e
发帖数: 9616 | 16 Nadal can. So want to see him playing Joker. |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 17 don't think so, Nadal will be crushed by joker. |
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 18 The commentator said nowadays players need to bring lots of cream cheese
when playing with Joker. |
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t**i
发帖数: 387 | 19 为什么我每次看到Joker的球拍总是想起Walmart里$20的拍子? |
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 21
你给弄个joker有拍的贴身近照来看看，没准可以数一数. |
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 22 恩，现在nadal只能咬住，等Joker自己掉链子 |
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 23 许多人认为joker这么红是因为发球improved了，其实我觉得更重要的是
1. 他的footwork,尤其是off balance时recovery得相当好。
2. 正反手更加凌厉，而且相当稳定，high margin, a lot of topspin.
恰好相反的是,费费退步得最严重的也是这两方面.
发球其实只是块遮丑布而已，你发球好了，许多easy point, 觉得其他都不太重要了。 |
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d**********9
发帖数: 5215 | 24 是啊,joker正反手比较平衡,求得路线比较多变.而豆子反手相对较弱和保守,所以很多
时候,特别是被
对手压着打的时候,豆子都会更多的回到正手的comfort zone,就如你所说一样比较
predictable |
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v***s
发帖数: 1893 | 25 今天球友说要是joker今年膝盖没问题的话，会把GS和他参加的大师赛全赢了。
KD, 这样会不会破连胜纪录，破20000分，GOAT之一？ |
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 26 如果Joker今年全赢，明年rp用尽开始输球再也搞不到大满贯。这个属于什么
样的记录？ |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 27 在硬地上赢Nadal都越来越吃力了。若干年前他基本都可以直落两盘获胜，然后
到泥地上再立刻被扁。
现在最慢的泥地Monte Carlo在即，六连冠的Nadal估计将有望阻止Joker的连胜
势头了。。。 |
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 28 你这是假定nadal的硬地还是几年前的水平。
不过我感觉joker mc碰不到nadal了。。。 |
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 29 very likely. plenty of clay specialists will be in line in this summer to
challenge Joker. |
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 30 看护豆小分队抽签了，如果都抽到joker这个区，累也累死他 |
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d**********9
发帖数: 5215 | 31 joker的反手一向很好，今天更是角度速度全都完美，豆子也只能打cross court,也有
可能开场比较
保守，没有信心打直线。 |
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 33 现在joker打法好像穆雷和萨芬的合体，攻守一体。 |
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R********A
发帖数: 1759 | 34 joker牛多了，费大幅度下降，RAFA小幅度下降。一比就比出差距了。 |
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 35 我觉得不是豆子没有反手，而是joker的双反太强，简直是前所未有的。主要是
反手的防守能力，攻击性本来就是双反的强项，但是现在小德把双反的防守面积
扩大到了单反的水平。以前经常看狒狒在被动情况下打出反手直线或者inside-out
winner，现在小德用双反一样可以做到，小德的移动和柔韧性确实好。希望豆子的
团队加强研发。 |
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b**k
发帖数: 11850 | 36 没错，这是很重要的一点，那双反小斜线的角度真让人羡慕亚
另外joker的变化比豆子多，从直线到top spin之间随意切换，不像豆子连swing
volley都要向上拉一下 |
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 37
俺也觉得双反的抗打能力较强。双反swing path较短，swing半径较小。 现在的拍子和
线基本弥补了这方面control和power的不足，大胆思维大胆训练就能做到理想的单反那
样的power，spin和角度。 而且能够step in高举高打flat killer，这个是单反做不到
的。
Joker的western正手是咋打出呼呼的flat的？他在rally的时候改握拍么？ |
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t******g
发帖数: 2253 | 38 joker的反手直线杀伤力很大，nadal一般就只能反手斜线调动 |
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d**********9
发帖数: 5215 | 39 murray身高臂长，双反打得角度很大。joker比rafa高一点，再加上超强有韧性，角度
同样打得很
开。 |
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b*****c
发帖数: 279 | 41 抽筋的老兄退赛了！今年就是Joker的好年啊！ |
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d****g
发帖数: 1049 | 42 ft, 连胜纪录又少了一场。Joker肯定恨死了。这个对手应该是轻松切的 |
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J*****g
发帖数: 301 | 43 还行吧，直落三盘干掉小黑，
豆子，joker也不敢保证一定能办到吧。 |
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I*******o
发帖数: 433 | 44 Joker还不错，但是就是不喜欢看他妈，他妈还老那么抢镜！
接着做豆奶粉！ |
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d**********9
发帖数: 5215 | 49 我希望看豆子决战joker,前任no.1对新任 |
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