u*******l
发帖数: 107 | 1 I agree that the several scenario that clamchowder and pets123 listed
indicate a program is more interested in an applicant.
But still DO NOT Gamble, DO NOT have the misconception that You in unless
the prematch offer or Match result. Especially in Internal Medicine.
The pg I ranked #1 did ask additional two faculty members, including PD, (
who are not on my itinerary) for me to talk to. One of the faculties, who
is the subspecialty fellowship (which I am interested in) director even
voluntari |
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d**********e
发帖数: 72 | 2 那个医院的内科面试官就是PD,我去的那天，他一上午面试20个人，给了每个人1-5分钟。
带我们参观的住院总印度女孩人很实在的，她说，如果打定主意想去那里的，面试后一定要做第二次访问，才能拿到prematch.基本上不要指望match.他们的scut work很多，住院医要帮忙抽血。很少有人能进fellowship，但是毕业找个工作不成问题。
别以为这个社区医院好进，人家虽然名声差，但是面试还是人家挑我们。 |
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u***e
发帖数: 611 | 3 St.barnabas didn't give me IV. I was just wondering how come they didn't fill
their position while there were so many desperate unmatched people out
there.
All other notorious NY hospitals filled their positions......Maybe they
forgot who they interviewed and didn't make a ranking list.
钟。
一定要做第二次访问，才能拿到prematch.基本上不要指望match.他们的scut work很多
，住院医要帮忙抽血。很少有人能进fellowship，但是毕业找个工作不成问题。 |
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t*9
发帖数: 2 | 4 I prematched with EAD. Some hospitals do not accept EAD but other do. So
just try to apply more places. GOOD luck! |
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M****9
发帖数: 240 | 5 you forgot the IMGs who got prematched. that is a pretty big number. |
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l*******8
发帖数: 1745 | 6 经历过match,会有感受的，是接受prematch,还是等到最后的match进univ. Program.
昨晚和一位前辈通话后，感觉还不错，就是个适应的过程。
当被人称为母老虎的case manager跑到我跟前说：病人和她说，我进病房和病人谈几句
话，病人就感到他的病已经好多了的时候。这真是让我感到很有回报。母老虎也被我给
搞定了！
当最难缠的护士在病房走廊上隔很远就向你招手时候，那个感觉也很好。
今天是我第一个24小时，感觉还不错，带我的SENIOR还不错：－） |
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c*******c
发帖数: 62 | 7 mark7 - 感谢你的祝福。
sunshadow - 请客归请客，唱歌还是可以去啊。我九月二十五回美国，到时再打电话跟
你约囉。累到不行还会睡不著，你的生理机能还真是特殊。
xiaomaguohe - 我会向大家回来报告的，希望到时可以拿几个 prematch offer。
md2008 - 谢谢你的讚美。
ericusa - Thanks for the advice. I've already got 4 strong LoRs from US
pathologists, and I'll be doing some hematopathology research for a few
months later this year.
icebluee - 谢谢，希望不会让大家等太久。 |
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h********g
发帖数: 145 | 8 That makes more sense now. Thanks.
I wonder whether pre-matched positions will show up on NRMP reports, since
those prematched will withdraw from NRMP match.
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x****9
发帖数: 2668 | 11 Totalli agree with you, hard to choose
I have choice #1 just it is cheap, after using 20% coupan |
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d******a
发帖数: 127 | 12 This is not a yes or no question. Lots of NY program sponsor H-1 and J-1
visa. For example, if you >250/250, excellent spoken English, strong
research back ground and you can convince the PD you will get a fellowship
somewhere. The most important thing is that you must get matched/prematched.
Before you get in, this question is too early and inappropriate to ask!
Think about it: your visa situation is in your ERAS application. If they don
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P*****s
发帖数: 89 | 13 My second interview: UTMB. 有人熟悉这个program吗？他们给不给prematch?
谢谢。 |
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y***1
发帖数: 8 | 14 I got an iv from Richmond too. My question is if they offer prematch. I
scheduled an iv in December. Not sure
if it is too late.
yyyy1
am |
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M******m
发帖数: 31 | 15 Congratulations to Eric! Great Job!!
Today is a truly bloody day for me: record high rej in ONE day! 6 rej!
Harlem, Bridgeport, Harbor Hospital ( My solute to the MM who got prematch
there), mountainside, St Agnes, and Franklin
GOD, please have mercy for me! |
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P*****s
发帖数: 89 | 16 这两天只是小雨，今天只有1个rej。祝大家都能够早日prematch，这年头儿不能太拽。 |
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c*********r
发帖数: 541 | 17 Indianan 是个好地方。关键您也看不上。当时真的觉得如果他们给我prematch我肯定
就从了。可是人家看不上我 |
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f*****y
发帖数: 53 | 18 pipi，我认识SUNY Downstate的CMG说他们大部分都是prematch进去的，你要有思想准
备。 |
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p******6
发帖数: 410 | 19 大家好，多谢大家祝福。至于prematch，呵呵，我还从来没想过有这等好事碰到头上，
所以就准备老老实实等match day了。恭喜noodlesoup同学的新面试，不过我好像记得
你有个很好的面试，ETSU对于你来说是小菜啦。
我下个月要毕业，后个月要考step3，所以只好把面试往前赶了。
收到new york presbysterian回信的同学门，是哪个校区的？columbia or cornell?
都说IV大潮来了，怎么没有感觉到？呵呵。 |
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x***m
发帖数: 140 | 20 Eric, thanks very much for the information.
If there is not much increase in AMGs, I feel all the CMGs showed up in this
forum and the usmleforum will match somewhere. I remember there are 23 CMGs
either prematched or matched to pathology last year. There should be an
increase in number this year, given the great scores, strong research and
younger age.
Yes, CMGs may compete with each other, but they are not fighting each other!
hehe, my opnion.
rotations/research in US.
each other, because the |
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p******6
发帖数: 410 | 21 病理的同学们，最近真是安静。大家是不是都在忙面试？感觉这个赛季就这样了，虽然
还有将近50个program根本没有理我，也懒的打电话要拒信了。本想早点讲一下早期的
面试，不过看看还有好几件大事要办，等到圣诞节左右放在一起再给大家奉献个大总结
吧。大家好运，有prematch的同学们一定要来报个喜，分享下经验。 |
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e***s
发帖数: 138 | 22 Great job! Thanks for sharing. Prematch? |
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c*******r
发帖数: 51 | 23 Thanks Harry for sharing. As far as I know, UT memphis prefers to give
prematch to fresh FMG.
By the way, based on an email from a PC, there are 19 CMGs got interviews
from Missouri Columbia. On our forum there are only 3 listed. That means
there are 16 silent observers.
For the silent observes: if you think the information other people posted is
useful for you, please contribute a little bit back to the forum. |
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h****g
发帖数: 125 | 24 支持。分享一下信息可以帮助大家定位。对大家都有好处把。
而且有些地方，如果已经发了一个prematch给CMG得，大家就知道基本没有指望了。如
果有什么办法能够匿名报告一下就好了。省得别人还把那些地方rank太高。
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e***s
发帖数: 138 | 25 支持分享信息。
但是那些prematch的信息会对rank有影响么？印象中应该是你喜欢那里rank那里，不要
考虑太多program要你的可能性。 |
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h****g
发帖数: 125 | 26 可是我也听说很多地方好像控制AMG和IMG得比例，如果已经prematch 一到两个img以后
，match得时候就不会其他IMG排的高了。这个说法有道理么？
当然会有特例。但是我只是好奇上面的说法有没有那回事？ |
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p******6
发帖数: 410 | 27 恭喜这位MM，也恭喜拿到超级prematch的老兄，希望能尽早看到你们的故事。
顺便报一下新的rejection, University of Iowa. |
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 28 if you cannot figure it out, next yr same fate u will have.
You got find your fetal weakness which led you such IV numbers.
At least the CMGs I know who had many IVs or prematched didn't have the
super credits as u do, even someone same as you have no GC!
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h******u
发帖数: 602 | 29 我想起了最后一个可能，推荐信你都看了吗？一封即使是中性的推荐信会害死人的。
prematch |
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s********r
发帖数: 36 | 30 Congratulations, Harry. Cheer up, Sand. I have done IM and pathology. no
prematch. it is nerve wrecking. one more IV to go in Jan. This year,
applicants for pathology are very strong. green card is a big factor. My
boss have connections in two programs upper level, both of them require
green card. then no IV for me. |
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h******u
发帖数: 602 | 31 谢谢了。
祝大家圣诞快乐啊。大家稳下心来，一定能MATCH到自己喜欢的地方。去年的老雷，
Cathy和 Poken就是走MATCH去了各自理想的地方，很多时候是这样的：你想去的地
方就是没有给PREMATCH的传统，那咋办？平平稳稳的走MATCH吧。 |
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i****h
发帖数: 71 | 32 请教了刀前辈及身边的朋友们, 接受了一个小单位的病理prematch。讲讲自己的情况吧。
2000年毕业，出国前no residency experience。美国普通州立大学读的cell biology PhD，毕业后未做postdoc， 两宝妈—-----所以简历上有
两年Gap。USMLE step 1 99/CK 99/cs pass/93，dependent EAD， 一篇第一作者
Nature Cell Biology，两篇一般文章及数篇会议摘要。今年夏天在所在地的社区医院
做了两个月的全职observership （小地方无教学医院）. 推荐信博导（老中，PhD,
not MD）一封 （一个chair明确告诉我他没看那封信），另外三封来自observe 时的三
个美国病理医生 （都是PrivateGroup从业多年的老医生，与学术界没有联系。但是都
是从好大学医院出来的包括MGH）。申请了95个PROGRAM，10月5号之前拿到8个IV，之后
拿到5个IV， 其中包括感恩节后的两个大学IV邀请。一共去了5个IV, 3 个大学，2 个
大学附属社区医院。2 个小单位 都给了 |
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S****8
发帖数: 1212 | 33 昨天接受了面试第一站的prematch，虽然只是一个比较小的大学病理单位，但相对个人
今年申请的不顺，大概已经算是最好的outcome，于是欣然接受了这份新年礼物。一会
再来写写我的有限的一点感受吧。 |
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x***m
发帖数: 140 | 34 Congratulation to Sand08 for your prematch. And thanks for the IV experience
.
Dok's "知己知彼" is easy to understand, but not always that easy to do. I
clearly didn't understand this application as good initially compared to now
.
Thanks everybody for the kind responses on LOR and PS. Especially Eric's
comment on recommendation letters and example, Harry's comment on PS. Eric's
selection criteria is also informative about this application.
Almost everybody responded think my multiple research backg |
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b*********e
发帖数: 18 | 35 Very nice writing. Congrats on your prematch.
话者（这更多依赖于原本个性），事前做足知己知彼 的homework，往往能起到事半功
倍的作用，而且知彼上做得好，也是自己对对方强烈兴趣的充分展示。
CMG， 都有一个共同优势，就是多年的research 经历。所以对自己的project，
publication, 一定要说起来了如指掌，头头是道，趣味横生，而且根据听者的背景，
当时反应，随机应变地选择short or long version，不论哪种version， 都要听起来
很重要，和医学，病理很相关；我在飞机上重新读了N年来发的所有paper，第二天和
chair谈话时还真都用上了，半个多小时，秘书数次敲门，但chair兴致不减，于是我也
就继续眉飞色舞地就他感兴趣的研究上的细节深入浅出地描述，: 其实chair是做neuro
的，和我的research 领域不搭界，但他既然有兴趣听并且一再问到细节，不好好表现
实在是对不起自己浸淫在实验室的十年黄金时光。当然，我在另一家不重视research的
单位，就都是采取short vers |
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x***m
发帖数: 140 | 36 WL, yl08, and yoghurt, congratulations to your prematch and thanks for
sharing your experience. Very impressive. |
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S****8
发帖数: 1212 | 37 pipi, thank you for your comments. You remembered more detail about the
program than I did. 不服老不行：-）Yes，the PC is very nice and I believe
his liking towards my performance played an important role for my prematch.
The program does not have CMG in the past (as far as I know), but the new PD
, who had worked in another bigger name Univ for a long time and is trying
to promote the program's reputation, will give out lots of opportunities for
CMGs from now on (already evidenced by this year's 2/3 in |
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L**********e
发帖数: 22 | 38 Only have couple of interviews. No prematch offer.
I feel very happy for those CMGs who have got a position, however, it is so
stressful to wait day after day.....sometimes, doubt if I am not good enough
....hate this kind of feelings. |
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S****8
发帖数: 1212 | 39 同祝愿所有认识不认识的版友match上心仪的program！
ps iarei 应该prematch了吧，前两天不还发帖问了个和州执照有关的问题 |
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b*********n
发帖数: 162 | 40 谢谢Eric支持啊！这里本来就人少，估计还有不少IM prematch去了，所以人就更少了
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b*********n
发帖数: 162 | 41 That is a big one, chmad. Congratulations! Even getting into the waiting
list of MGH is an honor, man! You made it. MGH is my dream place.Anyway, I
have not been getting IVs for a while. I guess for me there will be no more
IVs.
But I felt VERY VERY lucky, because the only prelim IM program I interviewed
at (a samll community hospital) gave me a prematch just recently. I wasted
no time to sell out myself. People even can smell my desperation. I felt a
lot relieved. However, my work is not done y |
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b*********n
发帖数: 162 | 42 Thanks, chad and bluesky. Actually, prematch to prelim is good or bad. Good
thing is security, but bad thing is that usually the prelim is a small
community hospital so the teaching quality and workload are not ideal.
However, if you can get into a categorical neuro program, you have much
better PGY-1. based on the IV number of your guys, you most likely go to a
categorical one, so what you have to do is waiting with patience. That is
all you need. |
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s*********7
发帖数: 34 | 43 当时真的很痛苦！尤其是知道了面试同样一家医院别人拿了pre-match而我没有，本来
就不是很自信就变得几乎像个偏执狂，每天都在想是不是自己这里说错了，哪里没有注
意？以至于拿到了自己喜欢的Prematch也不是很高兴了。
adeno, |
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f*****y
发帖数: 53 | 45 两个星期应该不是什么exact figure，只不过是说大概申请后十来天应该有面试了，我
觉得这个说法应该没有大错，虽然也有一些人12月1月什么的拿1、2个面试，然后直接
就prematch或者match上了，但毕竟不是主流。
总体感觉，内科的情况，如果9月1日就申请出去了，到现在还没有一个面试，这个申请
估计是比较弱了。病理的话据说很多地方是10月发面试的，他们比较闲，也可能会慢慢
看，每个program的情况都不太一样。 |
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L*****r
发帖数: 722 | 46 关于科研和 match 的关系，
1。科研背景对内科申请绝对有帮助，但需要其它条件，或是高分，或是强推荐人。我
有朋友在 Johns Hopkins 和UCLA 内科的，都是 80 来分，但PHD老板是大牛乃至老牛
老大牛大老牛，并强力推荐。还有认识的人去年因为实验背景强，被 Mt. Sinai
Medical School prematch, 可人家没要，愣是自己match 到另一家风景秀丽的大学
program。她是国内的 MD PHD, 直接过来做老千的，老板也没帮她，不过考分是 99/99。
2。据Johns Hopkins 和UCLA 内科的朋友讲，其实在 residency 的几年里，也没什么
机会做实验研究。毕业了都到别处做 Fellow，也没给本校的科研事业做什么长远贡献
，所以不太清楚为什么residency 招人时候要重视科研背景。据他们认为，看重PHD，
其实不在于抓来做实验当苦力，更主要是因为PHD的牌子把申请者拔高了一个层次：首
先program认为读PHD的都是有理想有追求、素质比较高的好孩子；另外经过PHD训练，
尤其是美式PHD的教育，这个人在语言、思维 |
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s********r
发帖数: 36 | 47 拿到了两三个IM IV (PA and MD) 约了十二月面试。现在发现有两个接受prematch. 但
是前面的时间没有了。我是不是screwup 了。 |
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t*******i
发帖数: 60 | 48 还是都是最后等match?
我同时申请了内科，最后交两个rank lists 吗？ |
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c*********r
发帖数: 541 | 49
我认识的和听说的都是走match
main lsit是一个，不过如果是advanced要加一个 supplementary list. 不过你考虑这
个问题太早了塞。先面完在考虑rank list |
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c*********r
发帖数: 541 | 50 恩，我是这方面的专家。你有啥iv告诉我，我帮你 prioritize 一哈。:) |
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