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e*****n
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http://foxyurl.com/nGG
July 6, 2009--Meet Matilda, or Diamantinasaurus matildae (above, in an
artist's depiction), one of two giant, plant-eating dinosaur species
recently discovered in Australia.
The fossilized creature, which measures almost 60 feet (18 meters) long, was
unearthed in the northeastern outback town of Winton, Queensland, in 2006.
A third new species, a carnivorous dinosaur dubbed Banjo, was also found at
the site. (Watch a video about Banjo's discovery.)
The dinosaurs were named
B********e
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来自主题: Belief版 - 大家来学习,进化论101
The family tree
The process of evolution produces a pattern of relationships between species
. As lineages evolve and split and modifications are inherited, their
evolutionary paths diverge. This produces a branching pattern of
evolutionary relationships.
By studying inherited species' characteristics and other historical evidence
, we can reconstruct evolutionary relationships and represent them on a "
family tree," called a phylogeny. The phylogeny you see below represents the
basic relationsh
S*********o
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来自主题: Belief版 - 大家来学习,进化论101
这种讲义都是以假设进化论是正确的为前提,但我们也可以看出一些问题来,
What is macroevolution?
Macroevolution generally refers to evolution above the species level. So
instead of focusing on an individual beetle species, a macroevolutionary
lens might require that we zoom out on the tree of life, to assess the
diversity of the entire beetle clade and its position on the tree.
The basic evolutionary mechanisms — mutation, migration, genetic drift, and
natural selection — can produce major evolutionary change if given enough
time.
A
B********e
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来自主题: Belief版 - 大家来学习,进化论101
Using the tree for classification
Biologists use phylogenetic trees for many purposes, including:
* Testing hypotheses about evolution
* Learning about the characteristics of extinct species and ancestral
lineages
* Classifying organisms
Using phylogenies as a basis for classification is a relatively new
development in biology.
Most of us are accustomed to the Linnaean system of classification that
assigns every organism a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and
species, wh
B********e
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来自主题: Belief版 - 大家来学习,进化论101

这个好像幻灯片里面有提到,orchid 里面很多都可以杂交,但是cat大部分都生殖隔离
了。
They may have a different level of diversity.
There are about 35 cat species and 20,000 orchid species.
c**i
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来自主题: Literature版 - Columbus, Before and After 1492
(1) Alfred W Crosby, The Herald of a New Creation; In the century following
Columbus's voyage, most migrants to the New World were African, not European
. Wall Street Journal, Aug 9, 2011
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424
053111904888304576472692264364406.html
(book review on Charles C Mann, 1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus
created. Knopf, 2011)
Note:
(a) "Genoa's most famous son" refers to Christopher Columbus (1451-1506;
born in Genoa, at modern Italy)
(b) dialectic (n; ultimatel... 阅读全帖
s******n
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - 异 域
Actually, I think the solution at the end of this novel is deemed to be a
failure. Only 2 people can not make the survival of the species. As I
remember, at least 50 individual are needed to make the survival of
the species. The only solution is to destory that whole place so that
no being can live there, even a virus.
t*******n
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来自主题: Thoughts版 - 达尔文主义、进化论与方肘子
老兄阿,上个贴子还没详说偶的理解是啥呢。下面这篇是前天在History版上写的,详细
一点(注意可不是各打二十大板)。
The issue here is not whether species change or not (fundamental Christians
are not ignorant of fossils and the breeding of animals). Below is my
understanding.
The question is what drives such changes, and whether the changes could be
enough to create a new species (definition: that cannot mate with the old one
to create live offspring).
Darwin says it's natural selection, which is a plausible explanation in the
broad sense. However
l*****y
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 全能的神/耶稣需要上的几门基础课
Mustards are several plant species in the genera “Brassica and Sinapis"
whose small mustard seeds are used as a spice
Salvadora persica (Arak, Galenia asiatica, Meswak, Peelu, Pīlu, Salvadora
indica, or toothbrush tree, mustard tree), is a species of "Salvadora"
你看是不是叫牙刷树更有喜感?lol

Salvadora
Salvadora.[1][2]
g*********y
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宇宙本身就當作是神 is a even better explanation. 這版說的神都不是那種先進的
外星人? How do you know the difference?
In addition, you failed to take into account the nature of human being. As I
keep saying, mankind is just a kind of intelligent specie -- information
processing specie. If problems of hardware renewing are solved, eternity is
not a problem. The problem is the efficiency -- better, more powerful
information processing units can be made using the materials that are used
to keep the old information processing
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - the unbroken thread [music]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOLAGYmUQV0
[David Attenborough]
All life is related
And it enables us to construct with confidence
The complex tree that represents the history of life
Our planet, the Earth, is as far as we know
Unique in the universe; it contains life
Here plants and animals proliferate in such numbers
That we still have not even named all the different species
Darwin's great insight revolutionized the way in which we see the world
We now understand why there are so many differe... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 哈哈,合成的细胞造出来了。
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10132762
'Artificial life' breakthrough announced by scientists
By Victoria Gill Science reporter, BBC News 20 May 2010
Scientists in the US have succeeded in developing the first living cell to
be controlled entirely by synthetic DNA.
The researchers constructed a bacterium's "genetic software" and
transplanted it into a host cell.
The resulting microbe then looked and behaved like the species "dictated" by
the synthetic DNA.
The advance, published in Science, ... 阅读全帖
E*****m
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基督徒的標準說法: 那是 micro-evolution, 不跨越
物種(species), 所以可以。
這就是為什麼要問 specie 的定義是什麼, windmind
連這都不知道就來反進化論。
c****g
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【 以下文字转载自 Wisdom 讨论区 】
发信人: dreamfly (舍身饲虎), 信区: Wisdom
标 题: The Top Ten Daily Consequences of Having Evolved
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 30 23:45:12 2010, 美东)
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/The-Top-Ten-Daily-Consequences-of-Having-Evolved.html#ixzz16peHX5HW
From hiccups to wisdom teeth, the evolution of homo sapiens has left behind
some glaring, yet innately human, imperfections
* By Rob Dunn
* Smithsonian.com, November 19, 2010
From hiccups to wisdom teeth, our ow... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 微进化、宏进化
In my belief, "random" doesn't exist. It is a belief so I can't prove it (or
can you prove it?). So I don't have a rigorous definition of "random"
aside from the textbook conceptual def. Even to your
virutal world exposured to the pseudo random numbers, I guess its
sample distribution can be inferred and converge to the true distribution as sample size increases (so there is a law associated with that pseduo "random" varialbe).
IMHO, for all practical purpose (as in Darwin's Evolution Theory),... 阅读全帖
D*****r
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I am aware that the conclusions arrived at in this work will be denounced by
some as highly irreligious; but he who denounces them is bound to show why
it is more irreligious to explain the origin of man as a distinct species by
descent from some lower from, through the laws of variation and natural
selection, than to explain the birth of the individual through the laws of
ordinary reproduction. The birth both of the species and of the individual
are equally parts of that grand sequence of event... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 进化论的预测
Back to the key debate of the discussion -- the contrast between "evolution
theory" & what I believe as a Christian (only speak for myself).
IMHO, the underlying assumption in Evolution Theory is "random" cause,
including the intractable cause of the mutations, and the intractable
sequences of events that lead to the environments (subject to which the "
variation" is selected) in the origin of life & species. Of course given an
environment, the seleciton mechanism follows biological laws.
Instea... 阅读全帖
G******e
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"Humans share a common ancestor with modern African apes, like gorillas
and chimpanzees, 5 to 8 million years ago. Shortly thereafter, the species
diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately
evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human
ancestors called hominids. "
So, do you think humans share the same ancestors with other species?
G******e
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Evolution theory:
"Humans share a common ancestor with modern African apes, like gorillas
and chimpanzees, 5 to 8 million years ago. Shortly thereafter, the species
diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately
evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human
ancestors called hominids. "
So, do you think humans share the same ancestors with other species?
D*****r
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [转载] The Improbability of God
Much of what people do is done in the name of God. Irishmen blow each other
up in his name. Arabs blow themselves up in his name. Imams and ayatollahs
oppress women in his name. Celibate popes and priests mess up people's sex
lives in his name. Jewish shohets cut live animals' throats in his name. The
achievements of religion in past history -- bloody crusades, torturing
inquisitions, mass-murdering conquistadors, culture-destroying missionaries,
legally enforced resistance to each new piece of ... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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thanks for the link.
I think the locations of retrovirus DNA intergration
serve as time markers for how the genome of one species are related to
genomes of others (they share common genes). Both evoluion theory & Genesis
agree that specis are evolved / created over time so this is consistent with
both.
But does the retrovirus intergration marker explain how the new genes/
variations were introduced to separate one speices from another?
c******r
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The theory of evolution can predict future development. The only reason we
cannot use it for specifics is that we don't have the required computing
power.
If you want to predict the next step of evolution of a specific species, you
have to consider all the mutations that might occur and how they will be
selected. And what the collective mutations would lead to speciation. Also,
you have to simulate all the environmental factors, such as climate, food
source, interaction with other species, human... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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"白打字了,那不正说明人类和其他哺乳动物有共同的祖先,这不就是进化的证明吗?"
how?
It only supports that God creates various species with common building
blocks/materials. it says nothing about one species spontaneously and
randomly evolved to another -- this is ASSUMED by evolutionists.
I***b
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【征文】肥猫与基督教 - 更新下
不知道你有没有耐心看到我长文中的第一句话?
你也许也没有耐心看这个你转的LINK。那个作者很客观。我帮你转一段过来,如果你有
耐心,请你看一看,想一想。如果没有,也没有关系,当我什么都没有说过。
Ideally, this list would only recursively include 'true' transitionals,
fossils representing ancestral species from which later groups evolved, but
most if not all, of the fossils shown here represent extinct side branches,
more or less closely related to the true ancestor.[2] They will all include
details unique to their own line as well. Fossils having relatively few such
traits are termed "transi... 阅读全帖
g****m
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Religion and Psychiatry
Irvin Yalom
宗教与精神病学
欧文亚隆

The American Psychiatric Association awarded Irvin Yalom the 2000 Oscar
Pfister prize (for important contributions to religion and psychiatry.) Here
is his acceptance speech delivered at the American Psychiatric Association
annual meeting in May 2000 at New Orleans. A version of this lecture has
been published in the American Journal of Psychotherapy (number three –
2002)
美国精神卫生协会将2000年奥斯卡菲斯特奖颁给欧文亚隆,奖励他在宗教与精神病学方
面做出的重要贡献。下面是他在2000年5月新奥尔良举行的美... 阅读全帖
l**********n
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于信仰的一些问题
关于信仰的一些问题
有人问:
圣经中的神迹(例:摩西让红海分成两半,诺亚方舟,圣母童女受孕)
这些对于基督徒而言, 是真实的? 还是单纯的圣经"故事/传说"?
若以上皆事实, 为何仅只存在圣经的记载中? 圣经之后,便无此一类的神迹?
所有人都会经过神的审判,但所有信主的人,
都能籍着耶穌的救恩令生前所犯的罪都得到赦免而进入天国,
但所有不信主的人都要在炼狱受到永远的惩罚
我们身边总有朋友不信主吧,有些基督徒甚至连父母、亲友都不信主,
那么按照圣经所说,他们不是要在地狱中永远受到惩罚吗?
当基督徒在天国享乐,想起自己的亲友在地狱受苦,仍会天天快乐?
如果人天生就有罪,那么为何还要结婚生子蕴育下一代?
这样岂不是为世界製造更多罪人吗?
上帝之于犹太人, 释迦牟尼之于印度人 各个民族/地区皆有自己的文化
为什么拥有最多信徒的基督教不能敞开心胸接纳其他的文化?
你有你的神,他有他的神,你是对的,他就是错的?
甚至视为异端or邪教 为什么?
人类的祖先是否为亚当跟夏娃? 即使是在现在这个科学发达的时代
若答案为是, 请说明达尔文进化论的不合理
就算达尔文的进化论是荒谬的
那么有什么理由证明我们的... 阅读全帖
s*********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于眼睛结构的智创论[zz]
进化论其中两个大缺陷就是 1)无法证明生命的来源 2)它是任意发挥,基因随机突变
。。但也正是因为这“无人管”的逻辑,成了它原理的致命伤之一。
以进化论来说,所有生物的老祖宗就那第一个拥有生命的单细胞.所有生物都是以最早
的那单细胞DNA在随意发挥之下,不停进化演变,相对杂交。如果进化论是对的,今天
这世上已经没有独特的生物品类(就是没有今天清晰的动物分类:昆虫,鱼,两棲,爬
行,哺乳分类等等)所谓Species的原理早已不存在了 而取代之的是每一个生物因进过
化程不停的演变杂交,个个都有独特的染色体.
这原理可以反复的实验。电脑设计个虚拟世界,(把所有constraint =0),让这些虚拟
生物自由发挥,交配,繁殖。。。过了某段时间你再去查看数据,你就会发现,在虚拟
世界里,每个”生物“都是奇型怪状的。这和数学的 randomization 很相似,设立个
seed value 再让它演变下去,同样数字的出现的几率是很低微。)
照进化论的原理,如果男女相亲的,那么某男方的”祖籍“可能是“两棲+爬行+哺乳..
等”,而女方的血统是“鸟+昆虫+鱼+哺乳..等等”。(Not a good... 阅读全帖
E*****m
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于眼睛结构的智创论[zz]
這篇需要全文保存
发信人: snoppyfirst (snoppy), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Re: 关于眼睛结构的智创论[zz]
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 12 14:20:39 2012, 美东)
进化论其中两个大缺陷就是 1)无法证明生命的来源 2)它是任意发挥,基因随机突变
。。但也正是因为这“无人管”的逻辑,成了它原理的致命伤之一。
以进化论来说,所有生物的老祖宗就那第一个拥有生命的单细胞.所有生物都是以最早
的那单细胞DNA在随意发挥之下,不停进化演变,相对杂交。如果进化论是对的,今天
这世上已经没有独特的生物品类(就是没有今天清晰的动物分类:昆虫,鱼,两棲,爬
行,哺乳分类等等)所谓Species的原理早已不存在了 而取代之的是每一个生物因进过
化程不停的演变杂交,个个都有独特的染色体.
这原理可以反复的实验。电脑设计个虚拟世界,(把所有constraint =0),让这些虚拟
生物自由发挥,交配,繁殖。。。过了某段时间你再去查看数据,你就会发现,在虚拟
世界里,每个”生物“都是奇型怪状的。这和数学的 randomizatio... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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I like your use of word "the state of the art" -- as in art, beauty is in
the eyes of beholders.
The phrase "Evolution Theory" used in this forum, in contrast to Genesis in
the Bible, is overloaded. It might generically represent all scientific
theories on the origin of life (abiogenesis), or specifically on the
evolution of species after the appearance of single cell organism on earth.
Regardless the scope, these theories study the mechanics -- how life comes
into existence on earth. I don'... 阅读全帖
s*********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 一般人該相信進化論嗎?(一)
你那个比喻是因为小张对金属完全0%了解。
进化论刊物的很多但基本原则就很简单,其中主要的就是。。。
它是【任意发挥,基因随机突变,无人监管】。
如果进化论连这基本原理都不通过,就代表它本身是存在很严重的问题!
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进化论其中两个大缺陷就是 1)无法证明生命的来源 2)它是任意发挥,基因随机突变
。。但也正是因为这“无人管”的逻辑,成了它原理的致命伤之一。
以进化论来说,所有生物的老祖宗就那第一个拥有生命的单细胞.所有生物都是以最早
的那单细胞DNA在随意发挥之下,不停进化演变,相对杂交。如果进化论是对的,今天
这世上已经没有独特的生物品类(就是没有今天清晰的动物分类:昆虫,鱼,两棲,爬
行,哺乳分类等等)所谓Species的原理早已不存在了 而取代之的是每一个生物因进过
化程不停的演变杂交,个个都有独特的染色体.
这原理可以反复的实验。电脑设计个虚拟世界,让这些虚拟
生物自由发挥,交配,繁殖。。。过了某段时间你再去查看数据,你就会发现,在虚拟
世界里,每个”生物“都是奇型怪状的。这和数学的 randomization 有点点相似,设
立个 s... 阅读全帖
s*********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 請問 YNML
wahahahaha81,如果有机会你可以发这个paper ;-)。
(看看那里有不合理的地方么。。。)
进化论其中两个大缺陷就是 1)无法证明生命的来源 2)它是任意发挥,基因随机突变
。。但也正是因为这“无人管”的逻辑,成了它原理的致命伤之一。
以进化论来说,所有生物的老祖宗就那第一个拥有生命的单细胞.所有生物都是以最早
的那单细胞DNA在随意发挥之下,不停进化演变,相对杂交。如果进化论是对的,今天
这世上已经没有独特的生物品类(就是没有今天清晰的动物分类:昆虫,鱼,两棲,爬
行,哺乳分类等等)所谓Species的原理早已不存在了 而取代之的是每一个生物因进过
化程不停的演变杂交,个个都有独特的染色体.
这原理可以反复的实验。电脑设计个虚拟世界,让这些虚拟
生物自由发挥,交配,繁殖。。。过了某段时间你再去查看数据,你就会发现,在虚拟
世界里,每个”生物“都是奇型怪状的。这和数学的 randomization 有点点相似,设
立个 seed value 再让它演变下去,同样数字的出现的几率是很低微。)
照进化论的原理,如果男女相亲的,那么某男方的”祖籍“可能是“两棲+爬行+哺乳..
... 阅读全帖
s*********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于进化论的事
ok 上图了 :)
你读看。。如果你认为那里有不对,请提出来。
(以下是我写的)
进化论其中两个大缺陷就是 1)无法证明生命的来源 2)它是任意发挥,基因随机突变
。。但也正是因为这“无人管”的逻辑,成了它原理的致命伤之一。
以进化论来说,所有生物的老祖宗就那第一个拥有生命的单细胞.所有生物都是以最早
的那单细胞DNA在随意发挥之下,不停进化演变,相对杂交。如果进化论是对的,今天
这世上已经没有独特的生物品类(就是没有今天清晰的动物分类:昆虫,鱼,两棲,爬
行,哺乳分类等等)所谓Species的原理早已不存在了 而取代之的是每一个生物因进过
化程不停的演变杂交,个个都有独特的染色体.
这原理可以反复的实验。电脑设计个虚拟世界,让这些虚拟
生物自由发挥,交配,繁殖。。。过了某段时间你再去查看数据,你就会发现,在虚拟
世界里,每个”生物“都是奇型怪状的。这和数学的 randomization 有点点相似,设
立个 seed value 再让它演变下去,同样数字的出现的几率是很低微。)
照进化论的原理,如果男女相亲的,那么某男方的”祖籍“可能是“两棲+爬行+哺乳..
等”,而女方的血统是“鸟... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于进化论的事
I didn't discuss about the origin of species.
The above was saying...
In Real Evolution there will NOT be any species at all.
真正的进化论是没有动物种类的。
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于进化论的事
Do you know what "origin of species" means? It's the title of Darwin's book,
it means the reason why there are species.
And hope that wiki link "reproductive isolation" helped you with your second
question.
f*****h
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于进化论的事
a quote from "Origin of Species"
"As many more individuals of each species are born than can possibly survive
; and as, consequently, there is a frequently recurring struggle for
existence, it follows that any being, if it vary however slightly in any
manner profitable to itself, under the complex and sometimes varying
conditions of life, will have a better chance of surviving, and thus be
naturally selected. From the strong principle of inheritance, any selected
variety will tend to propagate i... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于进化论的事
"origin of species through natural selection" is a "fact", condition on the
assumption that the selection is "natural".
for example, I can mutate a bacteria gene (either randomly or target
particular sites), and then select their offsprings based on my criteria (
say antibiotic resistence). Or cross-breed some species and select their
offsprings based on certain phenotype.
In both cases, new "creatures" are created thru intelligent intervention of
the environment/habitat within which the creatu... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - I've never seen adults behaving so stupid
那这句话一定比较适合你的癖好
A mind like that, it seems to me is, well, a disgrace to the Human species.
“I mean the most extreme case is the geologist Kurt Wise, who has a PhD in
Geology from Harvard and said “If all the evidence in the universe pointed
towards an old Earth, I would be the first to admit it but I would still be
a young Earth creationist because that is what Holy scripture teaches me”.
You cannot argue with a mind like that. A mind like that, it seems to me is,
well, a disgrace to the Human s... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 进化论的两大致命伤!
进化论其中两个大缺陷就是 1)无法证明生命的来源 2)它是任意发挥,基因随机突变
。。但也正是因为这“无人管”的逻辑,成了它原理的致命伤之一。
以进化论来说,所有生物的老祖宗就那第一个拥有生命Life的单细胞.所有生物都是以
最早的那单细胞DNA在随意发挥之下,不停进化演变,相对杂交。如果进化论是对的,
今天这世上已经没有独特的生物品类(就是没有今天清晰的动物分类:昆虫,鱼,两棲,
爬行,哺乳分类等等)所谓Species的原理早已不存在了 而取代之的是每一个生物因进
过化程不停的演变杂交,个个都有独特的染色体.
这原理可以反复的实验。电脑设计个虚拟世界,让这些虚拟
生物自由发挥,交配,繁殖。。。过了某段时间你再去查看数据,你就会发现,在虚拟
世界里,每个”生物“都是奇型怪状的。这和数学的 randomization 有点相似,设
立个 seed value 再让它演变下去,同样数字的出现的几率是很低微。
照进化论的原理,如果男女相亲的,那么某男方的”祖籍“可能是“两棲+爬行+哺乳..
等”,而女方的血统是“鸟+昆虫+鱼+哺乳..等等”。(Not a good example,
但希望大... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 进化论的两大致命伤!

"evolve" or not, God creates and decides, base by base, gene by gene,
species by specis.
Y**L
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遥想达尔文当年,一个人一支笔,点亮了人类思想的灯塔,使得生命可以自然起源的可
能看到曙光。其理论很快受到广泛传播本人也声名鹊起,并受到英国国教最高首领维多
利亚女王的保护。所谓他被迫害大概算是张口就来吧,呵呵
在达尔文之前,人们觉着相似的不相似的生命是创造出来的,达尔文说相似的生命可能
是彼此进化出来的。
与创造论相比,达尔文理论最大的亮点在于用无穷多微小步代替创造论中的一大步。创
造论说生命这种比汽车复杂千百倍的系统是智能一步或几步创造出来,达尔文说生命也
可以被无智能的自然界小步累积出来。
创造论并不否认创造后被自然扰动,甚至进化的可能。但认为扰动的结果总体是对设计
的复杂系统的破坏,虽然不能排除极其偶然的扰动创造新生命的可能。就像汽车,是设
计的制造的,制造后自然界风吹石头砸,绝大部分应该是砸坏,但也不排除一个四门家
用车被砸掉车顶,造出一辆四门敞篷车的可能,有,极少。
1 所以对于创造论,所以地球上几乎所有的生命是设计出来,进化如果发生,顶多进化
出相对物种总数极少的物种,大部分扰动,只是破坏生命。
2 而进化论有两个关键要素,第一是验证所有的复杂体系都必须能分为极小的不难靠随... 阅读全帖
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全文转载如下。
-------------
起初神创造-评进化论的由来与谬误
“起初神创造诸天与地”(创一1),这是圣经开宗明义的第一句话,这也是阿波罗八
号登月宇宙飞船上的宇航员首次到达月球外围时,发到地球上的第一个讯息。
当人观赏宇宙的伟大、恢宏、规则、精确,不能不想到其设计者;当人细察地球上亿万
生物的奇姿多彩、变化万千和巧妙配搭,也不能不联想到生命的源头和创始者(徒三15
);当人站在镜子前观看自己身体构造的奇妙,或在夜深人静时思想内心世界的丰富和
良心感觉的可畏,不能不赞叹“因我受造奇妙可畏;你的作为奇妙,这是我心深知道的
”(诗一三九14)。
然而,自一八五九年达尔文发表《物种起源》(The Origin of Species)(这是达尔
文所提出的解释宇宙、生命和人起源的假说),提出进化学说之后,进化的思想就如野
火蔓延,甚至写进许多国家的教科书里。因着进化论的教育,许多人误把进化论当作科
学真理,而把圣经中所启示的“起初神创造”当作不合科学的神话。这一进化学说蒙蔽
人的心思,拦阻人对宇宙创造者和宇宙存在意义的追寻,贬低人生存的意义和价值,导
致社会道德的退化。
本文通过... 阅读全帖
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runsun (runsun) 于 (Fri Dec 18 14:14:14 2009, 北京) 提到:
美国加州2009.8.29
D:科学家说数十亿年前金星曾像地球有海洋但干枯了,部分原因是金星太接近太阳,它
有水存在可能表示那里曾有物质生命,今日科学家相信,金星有微生物存在,金星是否
曾像地球能长养生命?
M:是,它过去是,它曾是美丽的星球,现在已不再是,那里完全没有生命了,没有任何
生物,很遗憾。
D:那里过去曾有生命,他们看起来像我们吗?
M:是,是,他们看起来像我们。
D:火星,地球和金星为何都有类似人类的众生居住,我们有类似的祖先吗?谢谢M。
M:我们只有一个祖先那就是上帝,有些变成堕落天使,他们看起来类似我们,是因为我
们有类似的功德,包括我们银河中的火星,金星等星球,只问我们银河中的不要问太远
的星球,否则我就不用出定了。虽然你的问题很简单,但我要查证,需要一些时间,为
了地球的生存我们也都很忙,所以我得牺牲你们的要求,一直拖到今天,我好不容易才
排进今天的行程里。
D:谢谢M
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Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/The-Top-Ten-Daily-Consequences-of-Having-Evolved.html#ixzz16peHX5HW
From hiccups to wisdom teeth, the evolution of homo sapiens has left behind
some glaring, yet innately human, imperfections
* By Rob Dunn
* Smithsonian.com, November 19, 2010
From hiccups to wisdom teeth, our own bodies are worse off than most because
of the differences between the wilderness in which we evolved and the
modern world in which we live.
Read more: http... 阅读全帖
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这是 GOOGLE TRANSLATOR 翻译的版本:
Sender: Waterer (battlefield allies irrigation cottage King), letter
district: Wisdom
Title: Hawthorn rain at night (20) fans Grandma species of mushrooms (
nursery rhymes)
Fans Grandma species of mushrooms
S**U
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According to sutras, there is an infinite number of worlds with life. Humans exist in other worlds before they appear on earth. Reincarnation occurs across these worlds and species. So an increase in # of life or species on earth just means more are reincarnated on earth.
Your question is more about evolution, and orthogonal to reincarnation. The sutras are silent on evolution per se, so I'll not speculate.
Lord Buddha said: I only teach the truth of stress and dissatisfaction, its cause, the en... 阅读全帖
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leonana (leonany) 于 (Tue Jul 26 03:37:12 2011, 美东) 提到:
发信人: SpicyPotato (辣土豆), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Re: 结束二十年基督徒生涯,皈依我佛【转载】
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 26 02:01:08 2011, 美东)
佛教的轮回跟进化论居然不矛盾吗?真是奇怪,六道轮回里的天道、阿修罗道、恶鬼道
都是什么生物?是怎么进化来的?
这种反基编出来的故事真是经不住思考,还硬要拿人家佛教做幌子,试图挑起矛盾,以
便渔翁得利,只是手段太差劲了一点。
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SeeU (See you) 于 (Tue Jul 26 10:00:19 2011, 美东) 提到:
佛教的轮回跟进化论不矛盾。SpicyPotato 根本没指出矛盾在哪。
进化论像都市更新,一片小区土地,拆了盖新房。轮回像换房,你被拆迁,还是小房换... 阅读全帖
l*****a
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 儒学分支之识字讲座:bi*ching
1. bitching
excessive complaining
Stop your damn bitching!
2. bitching
Repeatedly saying something over and over, or rather whining about it,
therefore destroying the point you were trying to make and making you look
like a complete bitch because no one is listening to you.
Stop your bitching about "rap is crap."
3. bitching
1.Complaining about sometime
2.Insulting someone repeatedly to make them feel bad, or to make you feel
better. Ot both.
1. Stop bitching like this!
2. A... 阅读全帖
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http://bbs.pcgames.com.cn/topic-1330193.html
因为选了《人体结构与功能》这门课,我无聊时也会在图书馆翻翻最新医学相关杂志。
在一本叫“基因”(还是“遗传”?)的专业杂志上看到一篇文章。
是一篇以人体已退化器官来追溯人类分化发展的文章。
说男性目前还都有结构跟女性一样的乳腺组织,和没用了的子宫结构。
然后后面那句话汗死我了……
“如果用适当的方式刺激男性乳腺,也是可以分泌乳汁的。”
我在图书馆差点没死过去。
专业的医学观点都是要大量实验支撑的,那么——
那位科学家是怎么做这个实验的啊啊啊!
回来和学医的一个朋友(男)探讨好久,朋友同意男性乳腺绝大部分和女性一样,但是
把持住男性乳房里头的ductile system(乳汁管)没有进化的和女性一样这一条,死活
不承认男性泌乳。
于是我上网搜搜搜,终于搜到些权威依据来驳倒他鸟!
原文如下:
Male lactation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The phenomenon of male lactation in humans has become... 阅读全帖
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新闻、视频与照片:http://www.ustcif.org/default.php/content/2940/
相关新闻: 华生将首登哈佛毕业礼演讲台,是科大才子!
5月26日10点(美东时间),中国科大毕业生何江成为第一位登上哈佛大学毕业典礼演
讲台的中国大陆学子。27日上午10点(北京时间),何江接受了中国科大波士顿校友会
与新创基金会的祝贺与视频采访。刚刚结束毕业典礼的何江气色不错,略有疲惫。何江
承认“确实有些累,昨晚只睡了四个小时”。 回顾今日的成功演讲,何江表示:开口
第一句话前有些紧张,发现大家笑了我就放松下来了。
何江感恩父母的帮助,提到父母未能赶来,但也已看到自己演讲的照片。“一日为师,
终身为父”,何江的哈佛导师庄小威(中国科大87少校友)特地赶到毕业典礼现场,见
证何江的演讲。何江介绍说“她很高兴”。
名师高徒:哈佛大学庄小威院士(87少)与何江合影。
想在学术界站稳
何江即将在哈佛大学演讲的消息传开之后,科大校友通过波士顿校友会和新创基金会转
达两个建议:1)希望何江在演讲稿中提及中国科大;2)快去湖南卫视《天天向上》,
这些都将有助于提升中国科大的威望。当2... 阅读全帖
c**i
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来自主题: Hardware版 - Robots
(1) Robots | Zoobotics; A new generation of animal-like robots is about
to emerge from the laboratory. Economist, July 7, 2011
http://www.economist.com/node/18925855
Note:
(a) phylum (n; New Latin, from Greek phylon tribe, race; First Known Use:
1876):
" a group that constitutes or has the unity of a phylum; specifically : a
primary category in biological taxonomy especially of animals that ranks
above the class and below the kingdom"
www.m-w.com
(b) R2-D2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R2-D2
(... 阅读全帖
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