y**h
发帖数: 3093 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: ykyh (又快又好), 信区: Military
标 题: 十个千老集散地在Science上发文忏悔
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 19 15:58:47 2017, 美东)
承诺联合发布千老去向统计
不能再骗人了
The biomedical research enterprise finds itself in a moment of intense self-
reflection, with science leaders, professional organizations, and funders
all working to enhance their support for the next generation of biomedical
scientists. One focus of their attention has been the lack of robust and
publicly available information on education and training outcomes. In the
absence of such information, students are prevented from making informed
choices about their pre- and postdoctoral training activities, and
universities from preparing trainees for a full range of careers.
Rebecca Blank1, Ronald J. Daniels2, Gary Gilliland3, Amy Gutmann4, Samuel
Hawgood5, Freeman A. Hrabowski6, Martha E. Pollack7, Vincent Price8, L.
Rafael Reif9, Mark S. Schlissel10
1Chancellor, University of Wisconsin-Madison, Madison, WI 53706, USA.
2President, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD 21218, USA.
3President and Director, Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, Seattle, WA
98109, USA.
4President, University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA 19104, USA.
5Chancellor, University of California-San Francisco, San Francisco, CA 94143
, USA.
6President, University of Maryland, Baltimore County, Baltimore, MD 21250,
USA.
7President, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14850, USA.
8President, Duke University, Durham, NC, 27708 USA.
9President, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.
10President, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI 48109, USA. | A****0
发帖数: 1367 | 2 最大的千老工地，哈佛医学院，居然不参加，看来也就是做做样子。据说Harvard 圈养
了一万个千老。
self-
【在 y**h 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: ykyh (又快又好), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 十个千老集散地在Science上发文忏悔
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 19 15:58:47 2017, 美东)
: 承诺联合发布千老去向统计
: 不能再骗人了
: The biomedical research enterprise finds itself in a moment of intense self-
: reflection, with science leaders, professional organizations, and funders
: all working to enhance their support for the next generation of biomedical
: scientists. One focus of their attention has been the lack of robust and
| d********m
发帖数: 3662 | 3 哈佛每年给千老开至少5亿工资？
【在 A****0 的大作中提到】
: 最大的千老工地，哈佛医学院，居然不参加，看来也就是做做样子。据说Harvard 圈养
: 了一万个千老。
:
: self-
| N***Y
发帖数: 2407 | 4 生物和医学就是造假成风的低端学科，其从业人员肮脏变态居多，真是庆幸没有掉入这
个火坑。就这种垃圾学科还整天贬低中医，庙小妖风大，池浅王八多，真他妈的可笑之
极。 | f******k
发帖数: 856 | 5 有良心的行为
self-
【在 y**h 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: ykyh (又快又好), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 十个千老集散地在Science上发文忏悔
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 19 15:58:47 2017, 美东)
: 承诺联合发布千老去向统计
: 不能再骗人了
: The biomedical research enterprise finds itself in a moment of intense self-
: reflection, with science leaders, professional organizations, and funders
: all working to enhance their support for the next generation of biomedical
: scientists. One focus of their attention has been the lack of robust and
| A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 6 Did you guys even read the article? They are literally saying nothing wrong
with the current Ph.D. training except the trainees are not informed openly
and about alternative careers. It is not easy to just admit that we OVER-
TRAINED people. How many of your Deans and chairs keep wanting more
graduate students (I literally told my chair that I won't use my R01 for
students and will hire a tech or post-doc before them)? The easiest way to
fix this is to forbid R01 and R grants to pay for graduate students. You
will see the trainees drop by at least half or more. In 5 years, we will
all be fine. | d********m
发帖数: 3662 | 7 发考题现身说法就是一个抵十。这种不同角度就是这个版急需的
wrong
openly
to
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Did you guys even read the article? They are literally saying nothing wrong
: with the current Ph.D. training except the trainees are not informed openly
: and about alternative careers. It is not easy to just admit that we OVER-
: TRAINED people. How many of your Deans and chairs keep wanting more
: graduate students (I literally told my chair that I won't use my R01 for
: students and will hire a tech or post-doc before them)? The easiest way to
: fix this is to forbid R01 and R grants to pay for graduate students. You
: will see the trainees drop by at least half or more. In 5 years, we will
: all be fine.
| P****R
发帖数: 22479 | 8 生物学目前同物理学一样，误入迷途。
物理学在过去30年全部押宝超弦理论，发了30万篇文章，最终不了了之。超弦理论和实
验不符合的时候，选择坚持下去。但是这是有严重代价的，也就是自由参数的迅速增加
。超弦预言宇宙有10个维度，实验却说只有4个（3个空间维度，加上1个时间维度），
那么就只好把多出来的6个维度压缩、藏起来（压缩的方法是丘成桐研究过的一个几何
流形，所以他才会如此醉心超弦），但是这就引入了10^500个不同的压缩选择，使超弦
立刻失去了任何做预测的能力，也就是成了偽科学。
而生物学在基因组工程后得到的26000个基因，然后抱着一个个基因玩花样，需要无穷
大的老千，看来不行，就要压缩，怎么选择？ 最后估计也会出现10^500个不同的压缩
选择，使分子生物学立刻失去了任何做预测的能力，也就是成了偽科学。
【在 d********m 的大作中提到】
: 发考题现身说法就是一个抵十。这种不同角度就是这个版急需的
:
: wrong
: openly
: to
| h**c
发帖数: 1979 | | v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 10
中医更垃圾而已
【在 N***Y 的大作中提到】
: 生物和医学就是造假成风的低端学科，其从业人员肮脏变态居多，真是庆幸没有掉入这
: 个火坑。就这种垃圾学科还整天贬低中医，庙小妖风大，池浅王八多，真他妈的可笑之
: 极。
| l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 11 Cornell又找了一个女校长啊，前一个做了不到一年就突然去世了
self-
【在 y**h 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: ykyh (又快又好), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 十个千老集散地在Science上发文忏悔
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 19 15:58:47 2017, 美东)
: 承诺联合发布千老去向统计
: 不能再骗人了
: The biomedical research enterprise finds itself in a moment of intense self-
: reflection, with science leaders, professional organizations, and funders
: all working to enhance their support for the next generation of biomedical
: scientists. One focus of their attention has been the lack of robust and
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