J********e
发帖数: 2284 | 1 给大家贴出来作为参考，每行的最后一个数字是价钱。另外咆哮一下：太TM烧钱了！ :D
Name Specification Comment Price
Frame: Pedal Force QS3 Carbon Road BB30, seat tube 50cm, green/white
Headset: Asymmetric Integrated
Fork: CRK11 carbon for asymmetric 42-52 mm head tube 724
Seat Post: P2 181g 300mm x 31.6mm 59
Shipping 25
Fizik Arione Wing Flex MANGANESE Road Bike Saddle Used 40
Nashbar Deluxe 31.8mm Alloy Stem Used 110mm, 31.8mm clamp 0
Bontager Race Lite Handlebar 31.8mm, 42cm center to center Used 20
Forté Cork Handlebar Tape 8.5
Carbon Headset spacer 10mm 7.82
SRAM RED BB30 Crankset 39T-53T with metal bearing 180
SRAM OpenGlide PG-1070 Cassette 11T-26T Used 25
SRAM 1071 Power Chain 1071 70
SRAM Force Rear Derailluer 100
SRAM RED Front Derailluer 34.9mm clamp on 20
SRAM Force Shifter Left New, Right Used 250
SRAM Force Brake Set Used 90
Forté Carbon Road Pedals 66
Gore RideOn Low Friction Cable Sets(Brake & Gear) 59.92
Wheels: Williams System 19 700 ND-Alloy, skewers, alloy brake pads
495
Michellin PRO 3 Race tire(front) 700x23c 0
Continental Ultra Gator Skin Tire(rear) 700x25c 0
Forté Ultra Lite Road Tube 700, 19-26 12
Water Cages 10
Mechanic Charge for Installation Labor, Seat post Collar, Spacer
190
Total: 2452.24 | h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 2 座位很便宜啊
:D
【在 J********e 的大作中提到】
: 给大家贴出来作为参考，每行的最后一个数字是价钱。另外咆哮一下：太TM烧钱了！ :D
: Name Specification Comment Price
: Frame: Pedal Force QS3 Carbon Road BB30, seat tube 50cm, green/white
: Headset: Asymmetric Integrated
: Fork: CRK11 carbon for asymmetric 42-52 mm head tube 724
: Seat Post: P2 181g 300mm x 31.6mm 59
: Shipping 25
:
: Fizik Arione Wing Flex MANGANESE Road Bike Saddle Used 40
: Nashbar Deluxe 31.8mm Alloy Stem Used 110mm, 31.8mm clamp 0
| J********e
发帖数: 2284 | 3 二手的，那哥们说只用了一次。我闻了一下，没有臭味，就成交了。哈哈哈哈。
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 座位很便宜啊
:
: :D
:
| h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 4 不错呀，这么多东西能奏齐不容易。很值!
【在 J********e 的大作中提到】
: 二手的，那哥们说只用了一次。我闻了一下，没有臭味，就成交了。哈哈哈哈。
| s*******8
发帖数: 12734 | | c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 6 切,我也贴出我的new built 明细, 为今后希望整车的兄弟们参考, 也让我的ride 朋友
们知道我的新车built结果.I will post the pics after I got the camera.
Frame: Giant TCR C2 fomula one Carbon Road 68mm English thread, Top tube
57cm, Medium Large,
Fork: Giant formula one carbon, alloy steerer tube
Seat Post: Giant formula one carbon, Dia. 27.2mm
Easton EA50 stem 100mm, 31.8mm clamp
Easton EA50 42mm handle bar
Frame, Fork, headset, stem, handle bar all used for one season, very good
condition, all for $525
Selle San Marcon Apside Road Bike Saddle Used $70
Ritchey WCS carbon handle bar 44cm 31.8mm Used $90 ( replace the
alloy EA50 handlebar with carbon for more damping)
Lizard skin Handlebar DSP Tape (google it, one of the most comfortable,
super gripping) $33
SRAM Yellow Limited Tour Edition 2011, BNIB $1580 (include cost, tax &
shipping)
that includes:
SRAM RED GXP Crankset 172.5mm 39T-53T with ceramic bearing, red cups
SRAM OpenGlide PG-1090 Cassette 11T-26T
SRAM 1091R Power Chain
SRAM RED Rear Derailluer
SRAM RED Front Derailluer braze on
SRAM RED double tap Shifter
SRAM RED Brake Set
Wheelset: Token C30A, Tiramic bearing(ceramic bearing + titanium coated
cones), 30mm rims, 1667g, skewers, $385
Specialized Mondo Sport, 700x23c, wire bead, 60TPI, (front, stock of
specialized Allez) 700x23c 0
Specialized Robaix Pro II(rear) 120tpi 700x23/25c $31
Tubes, one continital ultra light, one MEC regular, 700x 21c-25c $13
Cable guide under the BB: $5.65
Giant braze on front derailleur hanger( the curved metal square with slot):
$17
Mechanic Charge for Installation 0, self-built
Total: $2750 Canadian dollars
Total weight: 16lbs, 2ozs w/o pedals, w/o bottle cages.
Reasons why it’s heavier than Jerry’s bike when I am using full RED
grouppo: 1, Token C30A wheelsets have 30mm deep rim, weigh 1667g, 227g more
than William 19 wheelsets, which is1440g, because it’s using 19mm rim,
light but not so aerodynamic than a deep rim wheel.
2. Giant is notoriously making “GIANT” frames that the ML frame I am using
is comparable to 57mm frame that weigh at about 1130g, and it’s a 2007
version. Jerry’s bike frame is under 990g I guess because of the size and
also larger weave? 3. The Specialized tires I am using are for training, not
as light as race tires. | c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 7 another point, BB30 is inherently lighter than GXP BB/crank set, but stiffer
too.
tube
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: 切,我也贴出我的new built 明细, 为今后希望整车的兄弟们参考, 也让我的ride 朋友
: 们知道我的新车built结果.I will post the pics after I got the camera.
:
: Frame: Giant TCR C2 fomula one Carbon Road 68mm English thread, Top tube
: 57cm, Medium Large,
: Fork: Giant formula one carbon, alloy steerer tube
: Seat Post: Giant formula one carbon, Dia. 27.2mm
: Easton EA50 stem 100mm, 31.8mm clamp
: Easton EA50 42mm handle bar
: Frame, Fork, headset, stem, handle bar all used for one season, very good
| s******s
发帖数: 190 | 8 Just out of curiosity, I was wondering how long you took to put those bunch
of different parts together. It seems it's a really time-consuming process
to survey each of those details. (I guess it's also why many of my friends/teammates
here prefer buying a new one and upgrading upon that). | c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 9 It won’t take much of your time when physically building it up, but it do
take some times in research, study, know the specs, price, read the reviews
, etc. You have to have some bike specific tools to do that too. I have Park
tool AK-37 tool kit so basicly except headset overhaul or wheel building/
major truing, I can comfortably do anything on my bikes. And also when
custom build a bike you can choose the parts you like instead of the stocks
from the brand bike you bought. I spent all winter looking everwhere for
good deals, first the frameset, then saddle, wheelset, bar, groupset, pieces
and bits. You do need to determine the frame specs first before anything
else, like symmetric/asymmetric headset, BB30, BB90, BBright(only cervelo)
bottom bracket, and if braze on FD is possible.
To sum it up, it’s easy and straightforward to assemble the parts together,
maybe FD adjust takes some trials and errors, but it takes time to source
the parts and read all the articles/reviews.
bunch
/teammates
【在 s******s 的大作中提到】
: Just out of curiosity, I was wondering how long you took to put those bunch
: of different parts together. It seems it's a really time-consuming process
: to survey each of those details. (I guess it's also why many of my friends/teammates
: here prefer buying a new one and upgrading upon that).
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 10 exactly. I did the assembling in a couple of hours but spent a couple of
weeks doing looking for deals and a couple of months doing reserach.
do
reviews
Park
stocks
pieces
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: It won’t take much of your time when physically building it up, but it do
: take some times in research, study, know the specs, price, read the reviews
: , etc. You have to have some bike specific tools to do that too. I have Park
: tool AK-37 tool kit so basicly except headset overhaul or wheel building/
: major truing, I can comfortably do anything on my bikes. And also when
: custom build a bike you can choose the parts you like instead of the stocks
: from the brand bike you bought. I spent all winter looking everwhere for
: good deals, first the frameset, then saddle, wheelset, bar, groupset, pieces
: and bits. You do need to determine the frame specs first before anything
: else, like symmetric/asymmetric headset, BB30, BB90, BBright(only cervelo)
| | | c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 11 mind showing off your build here? to blow off all our noses.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: exactly. I did the assembling in a couple of hours but spent a couple of
: weeks doing looking for deals and a couple of months doing reserach.
:
: do
: reviews
: Park
: stocks
: pieces
| c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 12 BTW, I think 70 bucks spent on a SRAM pc1070 chain is too much, with this or
even less you could buy SRAM red chain on EBAY, isn't it? Forgive me if I
am too cheap. LOL. | J********e
发帖数: 2284 | 13 要是完全依靠自己做,确实如你所说,要费很多功夫。
但是这个过程中我偷了很多懒 - 去年年底时，我发了个帖子在版上问怎么custom
build一台竞赛用车，hengmei2给了一个protocol包括了几乎所有的零件。实际的build
和那个protocol大概有80%的相似度，你还可以搜到那个帖子。
我有一台用了两年的车，依据那辆车的零件尺寸，再加上我骑行的感觉，做了一些调整
，知道了新车零件的大致规格尺寸。
然后就是四处寻找deal收集零件，这个过程最长，有一搭没一搭地，搞了大概快三个月。
最后把车送到车行里去装配，花了180块人工加spacer/seatpost collar。
SRAM 1070 Chain也是被机械师宰的一刀：他说我买的二手SRAM Force PC-1091是用在
compact上的，装在standard crankset上短了，于是给我装了个70刀的1070。没办法，
象我这样换个brake pad都会screw up的机械白痴，正是被宰的首选。
bunch
/teammates
【在 s******s 的大作中提到】
: Just out of curiosity, I was wondering how long you took to put those bunch
: of different parts together. It seems it's a really time-consuming process
: to survey each of those details. (I guess it's also why many of my friends/teammates
: here prefer buying a new one and upgrading upon that).
| O****e
发帖数: 3290 | 14 When you have fun building a bike, it's worth it. Otherwise, just buy the
damn bike and start riding. | s*******n
发帖数: 2828 | 15 人工这么高呀
build
月。
【在 J********e 的大作中提到】
: 要是完全依靠自己做,确实如你所说,要费很多功夫。
: 但是这个过程中我偷了很多懒 - 去年年底时，我发了个帖子在版上问怎么custom
: build一台竞赛用车，hengmei2给了一个protocol包括了几乎所有的零件。实际的build
: 和那个protocol大概有80%的相似度，你还可以搜到那个帖子。
: 我有一台用了两年的车，依据那辆车的零件尺寸，再加上我骑行的感觉，做了一些调整
: ，知道了新车零件的大致规格尺寸。
: 然后就是四处寻找deal收集零件，这个过程最长，有一搭没一搭地，搞了大概快三个月。
: 最后把车送到车行里去装配，花了180块人工加spacer/seatpost collar。
: SRAM 1070 Chain也是被机械师宰的一刀：他说我买的二手SRAM Force PC-1091是用在
: compact上的，装在standard crankset上短了，于是给我装了个70刀的1070。没办法，
| h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 16 $200装配费, 在正规车店里就是这个价.
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 人工这么高呀
:
: build
: 月。
| s*******n
发帖数: 2828 | 17 哎。看来自己会组装能省不少钱
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: $200装配费, 在正规车店里就是这个价.
| h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 18 我觉得链条这些东西不要买二手的. 尤其是1091r这样的, 比1030轻不了几克,磨损的还
超快. 我记得在PBK上1070也就是$50. 不过车店要你$70也不算离谱, 毕竟人家也是靠
这个吃饭的.
build
月。
【在 J********e 的大作中提到】
: 要是完全依靠自己做,确实如你所说,要费很多功夫。
: 但是这个过程中我偷了很多懒 - 去年年底时，我发了个帖子在版上问怎么custom
: build一台竞赛用车，hengmei2给了一个protocol包括了几乎所有的零件。实际的build
: 和那个protocol大概有80%的相似度，你还可以搜到那个帖子。
: 我有一台用了两年的车，依据那辆车的零件尺寸，再加上我骑行的感觉，做了一些调整
: ，知道了新车零件的大致规格尺寸。
: 然后就是四处寻找deal收集零件，这个过程最长，有一搭没一搭地，搞了大概快三个月。
: 最后把车送到车行里去装配，花了180块人工加spacer/seatpost collar。
: SRAM 1070 Chain也是被机械师宰的一刀：他说我买的二手SRAM Force PC-1091是用在
: compact上的，装在standard crankset上短了，于是给我装了个70刀的1070。没办法，
| h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 19 还得有工具. 弄一套能把车装起来的工具估计$100不止.
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 哎。看来自己会组装能省不少钱
| s*******n
发帖数: 2828 | 20 一点点积累交学费吧。。
弄好了开个华人自行车铺去
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 还得有工具. 弄一套能把车装起来的工具估计$100不止.
| | | h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 21 lol, 会破产的...
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 一点点积累交学费吧。。
: 弄好了开个华人自行车铺去
| s*******n
发帖数: 2828 | 22 你是说交学费破产还是车铺破产。。
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: lol, 会破产的...
| h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 23 车铺
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 你是说交学费破产还是车铺破产。。
| V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 24 I have not used the SRAM 10XX stuff. but higher end chain is generally MUCH
more durable than the cheaper junk. It's all in the quality steel and
precision machining.
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得链条这些东西不要买二手的. 尤其是1091r这样的, 比1030轻不了几克,磨损的还
: 超快. 我记得在PBK上1070也就是$50. 不过车店要你$70也不算离谱, 毕竟人家也是靠
: 这个吃饭的.
:
: build
: 月。
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 25 本来就不是为了省钱，装车也是乐趣。如果你不能enjoy装车的乐趣，还是买整车吧。
这东西就像攒计算机一样
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 哎。看来自己会组装能省不少钱
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 26 It's not a fancy rig, I just enjoy building stuff. I built it about 3 years
ago but haven't really been riding too much.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: mind showing off your build here? to blow off all our noses.
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 27
years
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: It's not a fancy rig, I just enjoy building stuff. I built it about 3 years
: ago but haven't really been riding too much.
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 28
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
:
: years
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 29
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 30
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
| | | c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 31
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 32
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
| c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 33 That’s very possible that the chain you bought is too short for your new
bike. The shop may not lie to you. It depends on chain stay length, also on
number of front large chain ring tooth and rear large cog tooth. Two of my
bike chains use 106 links and another one uses 108 links.
build
月。
【在 J********e 的大作中提到】
: 要是完全依靠自己做,确实如你所说,要费很多功夫。
: 但是这个过程中我偷了很多懒 - 去年年底时，我发了个帖子在版上问怎么custom
: build一台竞赛用车，hengmei2给了一个protocol包括了几乎所有的零件。实际的build
: 和那个protocol大概有80%的相似度，你还可以搜到那个帖子。
: 我有一台用了两年的车，依据那辆车的零件尺寸，再加上我骑行的感觉，做了一些调整
: ，知道了新车零件的大致规格尺寸。
: 然后就是四处寻找deal收集零件，这个过程最长，有一搭没一搭地，搞了大概快三个月。
: 最后把车送到车行里去装配，花了180块人工加spacer/seatpost collar。
: SRAM 1070 Chain也是被机械师宰的一刀：他说我买的二手SRAM Force PC-1091是用在
: compact上的，装在standard crankset上短了，于是给我装了个70刀的1070。没办法，
| c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 34 looks like seat stay, seat tube, chain stay are all carbon, all rest of
frame are alloy. Bike looks like new and very clean.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 35 it's actually a steel frame. the pictures were taken before the first ride
of course it should look clean. it's a lot dirtier now.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: looks like seat stay, seat tube, chain stay are all carbon, all rest of
: frame are alloy. Bike looks like new and very clean.
| c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 36 How mucy whole bike weigh? looks like the dura ace wheelset is very light
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: it's actually a steel frame. the pictures were taken before the first ride
: of course it should look clean. it's a lot dirtier now.
| c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 37 about 2 grands. I got the wheelset second hand from binladen. it was a great
deal.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: How mucy whole bike weigh? looks like the dura ace wheelset is very light
| h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 38 Not sure abt 1090, but 1090r seems to have durability problems. I used to
pick one up for cheap ($30 in
nashbar) and it didn't last 2k miles before it stretched too long. I search
the web, and sounds like it's a
common problem for 1090r chains.
MUCH
【在 V*****n 的大作中提到】
: I have not used the SRAM 10XX stuff. but higher end chain is generally MUCH
: more durable than the cheaper junk. It's all in the quality steel and
: precision machining.
| c*********e
发帖数: 69 | 39 That's why sram pull out all the 1090(R) production line from their website,
and upgraded to pc1091(R) series? I am concerned about this as I have both
1091R and 1090 chain installed on two bikes.
search
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: Not sure abt 1090, but 1090r seems to have durability problems. I used to
: pick one up for cheap ($30 in
: nashbar) and it didn't last 2k miles before it stretched too long. I search
: the web, and sounds like it's a
: common problem for 1090r chains.
:
: MUCH
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