c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 1 William Neuman, New Way to Help Chickens Cross to Other Side. New York Times
, Oct. 22, 2010.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/22/business/22chicken.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=chickens&st=cse
My comment: Many gases are used in Europe for gas stunning, including
nitrogen or argonne. | F*******t
发帖数: 9113 | 2 怎么的都是死。
难道用gas鸡就不怕啦？它们照样会知道死期到了。 | c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 3 (1) Well, Americans--and probably Europeans, but I do not know for I have
never been there--are genuinely concerned about animal welfare.
I was a graduate student in biology at University of Illinois. Hoping to
produce antiserum (containing antibodies) from rabbits, I was troubled by
regulations on animal experimentation. I mumbled to an American student, and
she disagreed.
(2) There are various ways to die.
For humans, there was notorious "death by a thousand cuts" from China, a
term that appears in Western literature.
(3) The West has conducted experiments to see how animals can be slaughtered
without stress. For example:
(a) A. Bruce Webster, Is Gas Stunning/Killing Ethical? Department of
Poultry Science, University of Georgia,
http://www.csrees.usda.gov/nea/animals/pdfs/bioethics_webster.pdf
(increasing or decreasing air pressure; increasing, decreasing, or sudden
deprivation of, oxygen)
* What is LOP in the slides?
"More particularly, decompression creates a vacuum in the sealed chamber,
which forces oxygen out of the birds' lungs, simultaneously crushing both
lungs. At the onset of unconsciousness, the birds experience ataxia, i.e.,
loss of posture (LOP), resulting in the birds being unable to maintain a
standing position, and having no neck tension. Upon ataxia, the birds
exhibit a tonic seizure, with wings extended and the tips of the wings
crossed on the distal extremities. Because the birds have been rendered
unconscious (i.e., about 90% or more of the brain wave activity of the bird
has ceased) prior to ataxia, the birds are unaware of their impending death
and do not suffer during the seizures."
Hollis Cheek and Bruno Cattaruzzi, Patent application title: METHOD FOR
HUMANELY STUNNING AND SLAUGHTERING POULTRY USING CONTROLLED LOW ATMOSPHERIC
PRESSURE. 05-07-2009.
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090117839
(b) R. Jeff Buhr, Is electrical Stunning Ethical? USDA, Agricultural
Research Service.
http://www.csrees.usda.gov/nea/animals/pdfs/bioethics_buhr.pdf
Both of which appeared in pages 16 and 22 of
Richard Reynnells (ed), Bioethics Symposium: Proactive Approaches to
Controversial Welfare and Ethical Concerns in Poultry Science. World
Congress Center, Atlanta, Georgia, Jan. 23, 2007.
http://www.csrees.usda.gov/nea/animals/pdfs/bioethics_symposium_report.pdf
(4) Silly you, nonetheless.
It is known for some time that the more stressful is the animal before and during the slaughter, the worse the meat tastes. (Have you have wondered why meat in US look and taste better than that from your home country or mine (Taiwan)? A lot of work is put into it, to achieve this outcome.)
Effects of Stress On Meat Quality. Animal Sciences Department, Purdue
Univeristy, undated.
http://ag.ansc.purdue.edu/meat_quality/mqf_stress.html
(5) The goal is that the animals (be they chickens, pigs, cattle) do not
know they are going to die, or get stressed or suffer.
【在 F*******t 的大作中提到】
: 怎么的都是死。
: 难道用gas鸡就不怕啦？它们照样会知道死期到了。
| x*******i
发帖数: 819 | 4 关于（3）(a) 如果一个太空漫步的宇航员面罩突然破裂，是不是过程是同样的？无意
识的突然死
去？为什么不用这种办法执行死刑？
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【在 c**i 的大作中提到】
: (1) Well, Americans--and probably Europeans, but I do not know for I have
: never been there--are genuinely concerned about animal welfare.
: I was a graduate student in biology at University of Illinois. Hoping to
: produce antiserum (containing antibodies) from rabbits, I was troubled by
: regulations on animal experimentation. I mumbled to an American student, and
: she disagreed.
: (2) There are various ways to die.
: For humans, there was notorious "death by a thousand cuts" from China, a
: term that appears in Western literature.
: (3) The West has conducted experiments to see how animals can be slaughtered
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