T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 1 on top of 13mil.
When ppl say "It not about money", it's always about money. |
l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 2 3.5 M is guaranteed, and the other 3.5 M is incentive. If they go to
Superbowl, he will get all of the other 3.5M. 16.5 M is insane. Seems like
they are Super Bowl or move to LA this year.
Football is a team sports, although some players are definitely more
important than the others, no one should be worshiped as the savior. If I
were Favre's viking teammate, especially one of the other elite players, I
would feel I am under appreciated. |
p****c
发帖数: 8062 | 3 AP涕泪横流ING
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 3.5 M is guaranteed, and the other 3.5 M is incentive. If they go to
: Superbowl, he will get all of the other 3.5M. 16.5 M is insane. Seems like
: they are Super Bowl or move to LA this year.
: Football is a team sports, although some players are definitely more
: important than the others, no one should be worshiped as the savior. If I
: were Favre's viking teammate, especially one of the other elite players, I
: would feel I am under appreciated.
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s***p
发帖数: 2705 | 4 流鼻涕前先想想怎么少放炮是正经，嘿嘿
【在 p****c 的大作中提到】
: AP涕泪横流ING
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 5 With Favre, Vikings one step away from superbowl.
Without Favre, Vikings are a borderline playoffs team.
I think Favre is worth of what he is paid for.
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 3.5 M is guaranteed, and the other 3.5 M is incentive. If they go to
: Superbowl, he will get all of the other 3.5M. 16.5 M is insane. Seems like
: they are Super Bowl or move to LA this year.
: Football is a team sports, although some players are definitely more
: important than the others, no one should be worshiped as the savior. If I
: were Favre's viking teammate, especially one of the other elite players, I
: would feel I am under appreciated.
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 6 What you said is true. However, replace the word Favre with AP, or JR, or
the Williams Wall, that statement may also be true. It's a team sport, on
one can signle-handly take a team to the SB. Even Favre needed Reggie White
and the best defense of the league to win his only SB.
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: With Favre, Vikings one step away from superbowl.
: Without Favre, Vikings are a borderline playoffs team.
: I think Favre is worth of what he is paid for.
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 7 favre can not single handedly win SB for sure, but with favre, the vikings
team has a 10% chance. without favre, 0 chance
White
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: What you said is true. However, replace the word Favre with AP, or JR, or
: the Williams Wall, that statement may also be true. It's a team sport, on
: one can signle-handly take a team to the SB. Even Favre needed Reggie White
: and the best defense of the league to win his only SB.
|
B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 8 But is it prudent to pay $15M to, and break numerous club rules for, a
single player who only joined the team last year, for a 10% chance of winning? I say not.
It will have been 14 years between Favre's two championship seasons, easily
the longest such span in North American sports.
Not. Gonna. Happen.
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: favre can not single handedly win SB for sure, but with favre, the vikings
: team has a 10% chance. without favre, 0 chance
:
: White
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 9 when everything else is already in place, a better QB can single handedly
take a team to SB. So why not to pursue the better QB? Unless the team does
not want to win...
White
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: What you said is true. However, replace the word Favre with AP, or JR, or
: the Williams Wall, that statement may also be true. It's a team sport, on
: one can signle-handly take a team to the SB. Even Favre needed Reggie White
: and the best defense of the league to win his only SB.
|
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 10 not all 15M is guaranteed. besides, vikings don't have a next year. it's now
or never. good bet
winning? I say not.
easily
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: But is it prudent to pay $15M to, and break numerous club rules for, a
: single player who only joined the team last year, for a 10% chance of winning? I say not.
: It will have been 14 years between Favre's two championship seasons, easily
: the longest such span in North American sports.
: Not. Gonna. Happen.
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 11 I say yes, it's time to go all in, and the longest should be "never won the
second championship"
winning? I say not.
easily
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: But is it prudent to pay $15M to, and break numerous club rules for, a
: single player who only joined the team last year, for a 10% chance of winning? I say not.
: It will have been 14 years between Favre's two championship seasons, easily
: the longest such span in North American sports.
: Not. Gonna. Happen.
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 12 Isn't this the reason BF has always wanted to defer his decision to the last
minute, so that he will always be the pearl on the crown and get more
credit.
If we switch BF and AP, we may also be able to say when everything else is
already in place, a better RB can single handedly take a team to SB, ......
does
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: when everything else is already in place, a better QB can single handedly
: take a team to SB. So why not to pursue the better QB? Unless the team does
: not want to win...
:
: White
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 13 I think 3.5 of the 7 M is guaranteed, so BF will make at least 16.5 M. The
other 3.5 M is incentive.
Good bet or not, desperate bet for sure.
now
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: not all 15M is guaranteed. besides, vikings don't have a next year. it's now
: or never. good bet
:
: winning? I say not.
: easily
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 14
It's not guaranteed if and only if he does not make the roster cut, or be
suspended. Neither will happen.
Oh no. The Vikings DO have a next year, and many years after that, even
with many of these same players
already on the team this year.
It's Favre who doesn't have a next year.
Really, when Favre finally quits (without a title), life still goes on for
the Vikes, and how are they gonna handle it?
Telling Jackson tepidly that "hey man, it's you all along. You CAN do it.
We've always tru
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: not all 15M is guaranteed. besides, vikings don't have a next year. it's now
: or never. good bet
:
: winning? I say not.
: easily
|
B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 15 And a profligate one.
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: I think 3.5 of the 7 M is guaranteed, so BF will make at least 16.5 M. The
: other 3.5 M is incentive.
: Good bet or not, desperate bet for sure.
:
: now
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 16 coach doesn't worry about hurting someone's feelings. the best player plays.
the only players not happy are the two QBs. even the doubters are rallying
behind favre after the initial skeptism. why? because favre can back it up.
he delivers. jackson? he's a bust. if jackson has as much skill as peyton
manning or tom brady, do you think the coach will kiss BF's ass?
i'm surprised you bring up jackson instead of sage. if anything, sage at
least plays better than jackson. jackson shouldn't even be i
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: And a profligate one.
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 17 Besides Favre, Childress won't have a next year either if vikings fail this
year. He won't even has the chance to worry the rebuilding.
The other old players, including the 3 went to BF's home, won't have
another decent chance winning the SB in their career.
That's why they are willing to go all in with Favre, including begging. Deep down, I doubt they truly like what Favre've done. Like many people said, they are choosing the less evil of two.
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: And a profligate one.
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 18 Fair enough.
But why did the GM and owner tacitly allow this fiasco to take place?
GM has greater job security and thus a longer horizon;
and an ownership is for life.
Their concerns go welll beyond this year.
Maybe the guy wants a SB trophy to leverage for a better relocation deal to
L.A. Just more incentives for me to root for Favre's failure.
this
Deep down, I doubt they truly like what
Favre've done. Like many people said, they are choosing the less evil of two.
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: Besides Favre, Childress won't have a next year either if vikings fail this
: year. He won't even has the chance to worry the rebuilding.
: The other old players, including the 3 went to BF's home, won't have
: another decent chance winning the SB in their career.
: That's why they are willing to go all in with Favre, including begging. Deep down, I doubt they truly like what Favre've done. Like many people said, they are choosing the less evil of two.
:
:
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 19 GMs and owners should build buzz for their team. without favre, they can't e
ven sell out the packers game. with favre, all season tickets sold out. plus
all the merchandise, concessions, parking. i think favre made them much mor
e than 15 million actually.
owners aren't dumb...
to
two.
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: Fair enough.
: But why did the GM and owner tacitly allow this fiasco to take place?
: GM has greater job security and thus a longer horizon;
: and an ownership is for life.
: Their concerns go welll beyond this year.
: Maybe the guy wants a SB trophy to leverage for a better relocation deal to
: L.A. Just more incentives for me to root for Favre's failure.
:
: this
: Deep down, I doubt they truly like what
|
m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 20 of course, then vikings should go with AP. if you want to win, you always go
with the better player.
last
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: Isn't this the reason BF has always wanted to defer his decision to the last
: minute, so that he will always be the pearl on the crown and get more
: credit.
: If we switch BF and AP, we may also be able to say when everything else is
: already in place, a better RB can single handedly take a team to SB, ......
:
: does
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 21 I totally agree with you, just did not go far enough past the head coach.
Everyone has his own agenda, and leveraging each other and the situation for
their benefits. That's why Favre's plan did not work in GB.
to
two.
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: Fair enough.
: But why did the GM and owner tacitly allow this fiasco to take place?
: GM has greater job security and thus a longer horizon;
: and an ownership is for life.
: Their concerns go welll beyond this year.
: Maybe the guy wants a SB trophy to leverage for a better relocation deal to
: L.A. Just more incentives for me to root for Favre's failure.
:
: this
: Deep down, I doubt they truly like what
|
m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 22 why I always think rebuilding is the term for losers, that's the excuse they
use when they don't want to put effort(of course most part is about money)
in to win.
this
Deep down, I doubt they truly like what Favre've done. Like many people said
, they are choosing the less evil of two.
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: Besides Favre, Childress won't have a next year either if vikings fail this
: year. He won't even has the chance to worry the rebuilding.
: The other old players, including the 3 went to BF's home, won't have
: another decent chance winning the SB in their career.
: That's why they are willing to go all in with Favre, including begging. Deep down, I doubt they truly like what Favre've done. Like many people said, they are choosing the less evil of two.
:
:
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 23 that's why espn can become so big, people have money, people love drama,
hoho
e
plus
mor
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: GMs and owners should build buzz for their team. without favre, they can't e
: ven sell out the packers game. with favre, all season tickets sold out. plus
: all the merchandise, concessions, parking. i think favre made them much mor
: e than 15 million actually.
: owners aren't dumb...
:
: to
: two.
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 24 这个七百万是哪里的数据阿，乒乓球脑袋说是250万？
【在 T*********s 的大作中提到】
: on top of 13mil.
: When ppl say "It not about money", it's always about money.
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 25 Exactly. Vikings' 2nd preseason game on Sunday night. What a coincident.
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: that's why espn can become so big, people have money, people love drama,
: hoho
:
: e
: plus
: mor
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 26 This coming from a Bengals fan ..
they
)
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: why I always think rebuilding is the term for losers, that's the excuse they
: use when they don't want to put effort(of course most part is about money)
: in to win.
:
: this
: Deep down, I doubt they truly like what Favre've done. Like many people said
: , they are choosing the less evil of two.
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 27 bengals can never be called winners until they win. hehe. i'm high on
them this year though. think they win AFCN. hopefully win at least
1 post season game
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: This coming from a Bengals fan ..
:
: they
: )
|
l*x
发帖数: 14021 | |
m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 29 it's not easy to be a bengals fan, and I love TO now, haha
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: This coming from a Bengals fan ..
:
: they
: )
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 30 being bengals fan is the easiest. low expectations, any
improvement can make you happy. if you're steelers, packers,
etc.. it is a lot harder
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: it's not easy to be a bengals fan, and I love TO now, haha
|
|
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 31 I am old enough to have actually seen Bengals won post season games ...
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: bengals can never be called winners until they win. hehe. i'm high on
: them this year though. think they win AFCN. hopefully win at least
: 1 post season game
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m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 32 no no no, ravens are predicted to win this division, breezily
hoho
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: bengals can never be called winners until they win. hehe. i'm high on
: them this year though. think they win AFCN. hopefully win at least
: 1 post season game
|
m*********r
发帖数: 4692 | 33 you can ask qiaqia, is it hard to be a steelers fan?
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: being bengals fan is the easiest. low expectations, any
: improvement can make you happy. if you're steelers, packers,
: etc.. it is a lot harder
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g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 34 你high Bengals已经不止一年两年了吧，也不见你抢Bengals的球员。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: bengals can never be called winners until they win. hehe. i'm high on
: them this year though. think they win AFCN. hopefully win at least
: 1 post season game
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J**e
发帖数: 15008 | 35 to,ocho无敌了
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: it's not easy to be a bengals fan, and I love TO now, haha
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 36 可惜帕默被keep了。我准备no. 2 pick草稿my namesake, drew brees..
【在 J**e 的大作中提到】
: to,ocho无敌了
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g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 37 Brees今年肯定超级牛叉。SB有了，能力也被证明了，今年没准要for fun, 打破Tom
Brady的50 TD。
而且今年NO赛程相当soft, 看好Saints所有球员，我要build一只All-saints fantasy球队，大家不要跟我抢啊。
QB: Drew Brees
RB1: PT
RB2: Reggie Bush
WR1: Marques Colston
WR2: Robert Mecheam
WR3: Lance Moore
TE: Shockey
K: G Hartley
Def: NO
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 可惜帕默被keep了。我准备no. 2 pick草稿my namesake, drew brees..
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m*********s
发帖数: 354 | 38 Haha, and at the bye week ...
fantasy球队，大家不要跟我抢啊。
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: Brees今年肯定超级牛叉。SB有了，能力也被证明了，今年没准要for fun, 打破Tom
: Brady的50 TD。
: 而且今年NO赛程相当soft, 看好Saints所有球员，我要build一只All-saints fantasy球队，大家不要跟我抢啊。
: QB: Drew Brees
: RB1: PT
: RB2: Reggie Bush
: WR1: Marques Colston
: WR2: Robert Mecheam
: WR3: Lance Moore
: TE: Shockey
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d***o
发帖数: 6117 | 39 猪不理最大的隐患在于卖灯
虽然去年痱子没被克，但是因为俩人一齐上封面，全让马路挡了也可能
fantasy球队，大家不要跟我抢啊。
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: Brees今年肯定超级牛叉。SB有了，能力也被证明了，今年没准要for fun, 打破Tom
: Brady的50 TD。
: 而且今年NO赛程相当soft, 看好Saints所有球员，我要build一只All-saints fantasy球队，大家不要跟我抢啊。
: QB: Drew Brees
: RB1: PT
: RB2: Reggie Bush
: WR1: Marques Colston
: WR2: Robert Mecheam
: WR3: Lance Moore
: TE: Shockey
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J**e
发帖数: 15008 | 40 没有小花妃子是不是要降价了？
【在 d***o 的大作中提到】
: 猪不理最大的隐患在于卖灯
: 虽然去年痱子没被克，但是因为俩人一齐上封面，全让马路挡了也可能
:
: fantasy球队，大家不要跟我抢啊。
|
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 41 显然啊。校花现在好像去了fox..
【在 J**e 的大作中提到】
: 没有小花妃子是不是要降价了？
|
g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 42 没办法，那周我只好也bye
【在 m*********s 的大作中提到】
: Haha, and at the bye week ...
:
: fantasy球队，大家不要跟我抢啊。
|
g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 43 这个比较凶，没办法，富贵险中求，有curse也得上。
【在 d***o 的大作中提到】
: 猪不理最大的隐患在于卖灯
: 虽然去年痱子没被克，但是因为俩人一齐上封面，全让马路挡了也可能
:
: fantasy球队，大家不要跟我抢啊。
|
B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | |
d***o
发帖数: 6117 | 45 不过也少了一个抢球的
再加上命硬
不会降太多
【在 J**e 的大作中提到】
: 没有小花妃子是不是要降价了？
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g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 46 红鸟今年的赛程：Easy, Cheesy, Lemon Squeezy
痱子要把AJ赶下台，AJ今年赛程极其凶险，不准备抢了。
【在 J**e 的大作中提到】
: 没有小花妃子是不是要降价了？
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g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 47 没办法，我们这些俗人，都掉钱眼里，爬不出来。
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我就知道最终又会扯到饭大喜上去，damn.
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J**e
发帖数: 15008 | 48 k,俺现在是两眼一摸黑，大哥推荐几个必杀球员吧
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: 红鸟今年的赛程：Easy, Cheesy, Lemon Squeezy
: 痱子要把AJ赶下台，AJ今年赛程极其凶险，不准备抢了。
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g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 49 你是去年冠军，就不要唬弄不明真相的群众了。好在不在DFL抢人，我就勉为其难给你
几个小黑马吧：
KC的Dexter McCluster
候三通，停赛4场，QB downgrade, 没人看好
Felix Jones, 要是能不受伤的话
马赛克
Julian Edelman, 前半程可用
问题是，你敢用吗？
【在 J**e 的大作中提到】
: k,俺现在是两眼一摸黑，大哥推荐几个必杀球员吧
|
d***o
发帖数: 6117 | 50 tiki barber
【在 J**e 的大作中提到】
: k,俺现在是两眼一摸黑，大哥推荐几个必杀球员吧
|
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d***o
发帖数: 6117 | 51 marvin harrison
两人得一可安天下
【在 d***o 的大作中提到】
: tiki barber
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J**e
发帖数: 15008 | 52 good info. 今年只能挑战小概率了
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: 你是去年冠军，就不要唬弄不明真相的群众了。好在不在DFL抢人，我就勉为其难给你
: 几个小黑马吧：
: KC的Dexter McCluster
: 候三通，停赛4场，QB downgrade, 没人看好
: Felix Jones, 要是能不受伤的话
: 马赛克
: Julian Edelman, 前半程可用
: 问题是，你敢用吗？
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J**e
发帖数: 15008 | 53 湖我，这个不是早退役了吗？马爸爸是不是已经被人霸占了?
【在 d***o 的大作中提到】
: tiki barber
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J**e
发帖数: 15008 | 54 我要蒙大拿佩杰大米
【在 d***o 的大作中提到】
: marvin harrison
: 两人得一可安天下
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h***o
发帖数: 2321 | 55 trade bah
Brees does not deserve 2nd overall pick
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 可惜帕默被keep了。我准备no. 2 pick草稿my namesake, drew brees..
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T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 56 Wow, haven't been here for one day. Surprised by so many replies. |
T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 57 Chilly now lost respect in lock room completely.
Favre barely mentioned ankle.
It's not the ankle. It's the coach.
He thinks Chilly has no clue in offense. |
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 58 childress就是个傻瓜。当年把宝都压倒jackson身上就lost all
respect from me了
【在 T*********s 的大作中提到】
: Chilly now lost respect in lock room completely.
: Favre barely mentioned ankle.
: It's not the ankle. It's the coach.
: He thinks Chilly has no clue in offense.
|
h*****p
发帖数: 2638 | 59 那个时候有范大喜吗?
【在 J**e 的大作中提到】
: 我要蒙大拿佩杰大米
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T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 60 Yes. A group of friends I was playing FFL with started their league in late
80's at Motorola. Based on newspaper published stats.
【在 h*****p 的大作中提到】
: 那个时候有范大喜吗?
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