O*****s
发帖数: 990 | 1 Though it's a shame Westwood did not try his best |
l**********e
发帖数: 459 | 2 yup, i am also watching it.
nice approach shot in the playoff.
Lee's ball spinned wrong direction into the water. |
ET
发帖数: 10701 | 3 nice. i know many will be happy for him.
he is a nice guy.. and he is.. short.. , at most 169cm..
【在 O*****s 的大作中提到】
: Though it's a shame Westwood did not try his best
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 4 A short pro looks even shorter on the green. LOL. I believe he's 5 ft 9 in (
1.75 m). Anyway, I am not quite sure how long he can hang in there on the
top.
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: nice. i know many will be happy for him.
: he is a nice guy.. and he is.. short.. , at most 169cm..
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 5 he is too small and lacks distance. I don't see him staying in top 5 for ver
y long. Rory is small, too -- about 5'9 to 5'10, but his swing is a lot more
dynamic than lukes, which makes him one of the longest hitters out there.
(
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: A short pro looks even shorter on the green. LOL. I believe he's 5 ft 9 in (
: 1.75 m). Anyway, I am not quite sure how long he can hang in there on the
: top.
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 6 Agree, he is a not a long hitter at all and Woosnam could hit the ball
longer than he does. What I like is most of his approach shots from 50 to
150 yards, so becautiful it's almost hard to believe.
ver
more
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: he is too small and lacks distance. I don't see him staying in top 5 for ver
: y long. Rory is small, too -- about 5'9 to 5'10, but his swing is a lot more
: dynamic than lukes, which makes him one of the longest hitters out there.
:
: (
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 7 a practice green i often use, from 50-70, average 3 都困难。
我就知道我90都破不了。
而luke 基本上2， 可能70% 以上，这简直是他50-70from pin 比我10-20吗的putting
海牛。
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: Agree, he is a not a long hitter at all and Woosnam could hit the ball
: longer than he does. What I like is most of his approach shots from 50 to
: 150 yards, so becautiful it's almost hard to believe.
:
: ver
: more
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 8 it claims that he is the best iron player, even before he started winning.
How I read is that he used to have the best iron play, now with new R11,
certainly, would help his distance (even i rarely see Taylormade claim any
credit on luke's success)
Another best iron player was Jim Furky, who won the Fedex cup last year.
then, there was Sergio, another best iron player, but his putting sucks.
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: Agree, he is a not a long hitter at all and Woosnam could hit the ball
: longer than he does. What I like is most of his approach shots from 50 to
: 150 yards, so becautiful it's almost hard to believe.
:
: ver
: more
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 9 在店里挥了一下 r11, 没觉得能比r9 460 长 20吗。主要是marketing.
倒是白色的head 挥起来 视觉效果很好, swing path 看得更清楚。
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: it claims that he is the best iron player, even before he started winning.
: How I read is that he used to have the best iron play, now with new R11,
: certainly, would help his distance (even i rarely see Taylormade claim any
: credit on luke's success)
: Another best iron player was Jim Furky, who won the Fedex cup last year.
: then, there was Sergio, another best iron player, but his putting sucks.
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 10 破90并不难，难的是每次都破90，不同的球场都能破90。我很长的一段时间，都是想把
球打远，以为这样会提高成绩。实际上，是很长时间，成绩没有什么大变化，偶尔会打
出一场好球，破90。去年开始花时间，大概有一半的时间，练习短杆，练习推杆。今年
的球赛，虽然开球的距离要比以往平均少了一二十码，可每场的成绩却比以往有所提高
，比较稳定。我不再奢望开球更远，只希望每次一百五十码球都能落在果岭上。
putting
needed, carry 260 多.他的power 很多amateur 都可以达到。牛的是他的consistency
.
终于可以校准估算 , 260左右carry. 可惜， consistency 太差了。 铁杆200+的
consistency 更差。。。
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: a practice green i often use, from 50-70, average 3 都困难。
: 我就知道我90都破不了。
: 而luke 基本上2， 可能70% 以上，这简直是他50-70from pin 比我10-20吗的putting
: 海牛。
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O*****s
发帖数: 990 | 11 I don't think driving distance is a problem. Short game is most important
and then consistency.
You make -2 on a tough course in each of the 4 days you win the game.
ver
more
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: he is too small and lacks distance. I don't see him staying in top 5 for ver
: y long. Rory is small, too -- about 5'9 to 5'10, but his swing is a lot more
: dynamic than lukes, which makes him one of the longest hitters out there.
:
: (
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 12 vankie is that strong? impressive
there.
【在 O*****s 的大作中提到】
: I don't think driving distance is a problem. Short game is most important
: and then consistency.
: You make -2 on a tough course in each of the 4 days you win the game.
:
: ver
: more
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 13 50 yard wedge 打了10个，来回走了 1000 yard.
average 3.2 stroke. 8 3s, 2 4s， 没有2.
稍不留神就会4. 算是我figured out 打的好的时候了。刚刚把路线控制在没有离谱的方位， 距离控制感觉还不行。
50yard 是不太用力气， 但是要一点力的距离。 以前经常shank. 估计是hip 乱动， 但是很多时候focus 在手上， 都意识不到。 hip should be turning, not swaying. 纠正这一点就没有shank 了。 还有setup 前要看地势和lie.
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: a practice green i often use, from 50-70, average 3 都困难。
: 我就知道我90都破不了。
: 而luke 基本上2， 可能70% 以上，这简直是他50-70from pin 比我10-20吗的putting
: 海牛。
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 14 六十码内的切球，我一个礼拜要练30分钟以上，至少一百五十多个球。体会是，始终保
持重心在左脚，左肩左胸要转开，练完之后，腰会有点酸。
的方位， 距离控制感觉还不行。
但是很多时候focus 在手上， 都意识不到。 hip should be turning, not swaying.
纠正这一点就没有shank 了。 还有setup 前要看地势和lie.
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: 50 yard wedge 打了10个，来回走了 1000 yard.
: average 3.2 stroke. 8 3s, 2 4s， 没有2.
: 稍不留神就会4. 算是我figured out 打的好的时候了。刚刚把路线控制在没有离谱的方位， 距离控制感觉还不行。
: 50yard 是不太用力气， 但是要一点力的距离。 以前经常shank. 估计是hip 乱动， 但是很多时候focus 在手上， 都意识不到。 hip should be turning, not swaying. 纠正这一点就没有shank 了。 还有setup 前要看地势和lie.
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 15 保持一定水平真不容易。 你还要练习 100， 150， hybrid, driver, bunker吧？再打
一场 ９ 或１８洞?
我10粒球就打了25 分钟 （pitch & putting)。一直练习连续在同一点打容易依赖last
shot的感觉。不过我看大多数人都是这样fine tune, 多打球， 少走路.
我琢磨球技上不去， 至少达到步行锻炼。
swaying.
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: 六十码内的切球，我一个礼拜要练30分钟以上，至少一百五十多个球。体会是，始终保
: 持重心在左脚，左肩左胸要转开，练完之后，腰会有点酸。
:
: 的方位， 距离控制感觉还不行。
: 但是很多时候focus 在手上， 都意识不到。 hip should be turning, not swaying.
: 纠正这一点就没有shank 了。 还有setup 前要看地势和lie.
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f*t
发帖数: 382 | 16 guys, 50 yards short is harder than full swing.but I agree score a 4 is bad.
you should average 2.x from 50 yards. |
v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 17 达到一定水平很不容易，保持这水平更不容易。我这里没有那种pitching和putting一
起练习的，都是分开的，所以，我练切球的时候，只能练切球和沙坑，一般是两袋球，
租的那种，不停的切。至于100到180码的铁杆，木杆和混杆，每周也就两筐，100的球
，开球杆，基本不练。我公司附近有两个球场，我上班的日子，会起那里练推杆。我今
年的计划是一个月两场球，不过这个月打了五场，超标了，哈哈。
last
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: 保持一定水平真不容易。 你还要练习 100， 150， hybrid, driver, bunker吧？再打
: 一场 ９ 或１８洞?
: 我10粒球就打了25 分钟 （pitch & putting)。一直练习连续在同一点打容易依赖last
: shot的感觉。不过我看大多数人都是这样fine tune, 多打球， 少走路.
: 我琢磨球技上不去， 至少达到步行锻炼。
:
: swaying.
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 18 reality is they are both very important. you can't be a top player on today'
s tour unless you are fairly good with both. today's course set-ups are long
, and the accuracy difference between a 5 iron and an 8 iron is substantial,
even for top iron players like Luke.
【在 O*****s 的大作中提到】
: I don't think driving distance is a problem. Short game is most important
: and then consistency.
: You make -2 on a tough course in each of the 4 days you win the game.
:
: ver
: more
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 19 it's more likely I make +2 on every hole... lol
【在 u*********r 的大作中提到】
: vankie is that strong? impressive
:
: there.
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m********h
发帖数: 405 | 20 看最近的美国这边的体育评论，普遍认为现在世界排名第一已经不值钱。比如westwood
，martin kymer，luke donald 简历平平，这几个人没有一个在四大赛事里没那过一个
冠军，Luke只拿过PGA Tour 3个冠军而已居然就世界第一了。 |
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 21 这个计分系统颇有些“高分低能”，是不是中国教育部帮设计的，哈哈。。。
westwood
【在 m********h 的大作中提到】
: 看最近的美国这边的体育评论，普遍认为现在世界排名第一已经不值钱。比如westwood
: ，martin kymer，luke donald 简历平平，这几个人没有一个在四大赛事里没那过一个
: 冠军，Luke只拿过PGA Tour 3个冠军而已居然就世界第一了。
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f*t
发帖数: 382 | 22 Driving distance and accuracy is very important. My good driving day vs bad
driving day
the score difference is above 10. In a good driving day, I make par, birdy
and the worst is boggie. In a bad driving days, I made +1, +2, or +3 (OB +
boggie), +4 and on and on.
BTW, Luke's driving distance is not bad at all, he make 300+ drives from
time to time.
【在 O*****s 的大作中提到】
: I don't think driving distance is a problem. Short game is most important
: and then consistency.
: You make -2 on a tough course in each of the 4 days you win the game.
:
: ver
: more
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 23 average < 3 for 50-75 yard is not easy, check PGA tour RTP score (relative
to par) from 50-75
http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?030
i got 3.2 with help with wet green, familiarity, and uphills.
if < 50, say like 20-30 (chip), may get more 2s.
for comparison from 125-150, luke 2shot in hole 1/4 of time.
overall < 125, luke 2shots in hole 1/3 of time
http://www.pgatour.com/r/stats/info/?360
bad.
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: guys, 50 yards short is harder than full swing.but I agree score a 4 is bad.
: you should average 2.x from 50 yards.
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 24 I agree driving distance is very important for a PGA player to win a
tournament. With all the newly developed equipment and balls helping drive
the ball further, most PGA players can drive or averagely drive the ball
over 275 yards or longer. With such a driving distance, a PGA player can
possible compete in any PGA games. José María Olazábal is not a long
hitter at all and his average driving distance is less than 270 yards. He
won the Masters twice.
today'
long
substantial,
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: reality is they are both very important. you can't be a top player on today'
: s tour unless you are fairly good with both. today's course set-ups are long
: , and the accuracy difference between a 5 iron and an 8 iron is substantial,
: even for top iron players like Luke.
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O*****s
发帖数: 990 | 25 Yes they are both important but driving distance is far less important than
short games and consistency as
long as you pass 250yds or so.
If you look at the score cards of most majors and major tour events, where
you can earn a lot of points, the
winner scores pretty high since the courses are hard. This means if you can
make -1 or -2 everyday you will
win the game. The longest long pars will prevent shot drivers from making
eagles and birdies but not pars.
Making pars on par5 holes should be easy for most of top players and all
they need to do is to make a few
birdies on par3s.
today'
long
substantial,
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: reality is they are both very important. you can't be a top player on today'
: s tour unless you are fairly good with both. today's course set-ups are long
: , and the accuracy difference between a 5 iron and an 8 iron is substantial,
: even for top iron players like Luke.
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f*t
发帖数: 382 | 26 There are 500 yards par 4s now on tour.
280 plus driving is a must now in tour. |
O*****s
发帖数: 990 | 27 true. 280 yds then :)
drivers evolve every year though.
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: There are 500 yards par 4s now on tour.
: 280 plus driving is a must now in tour.
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