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Investment版 - 小公司,401k, roth 401k还是IRA
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话题: ira话题: 401k话题: roth话题: match
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x**********n
发帖数: 1262
1
现在一小公司工作, 老板问我怎么买401K?
我网上研究了一下,好像401k/roth401k才能employer match. IRA只能个人自己买,
employer不能contribute。
现在没有绿卡,33岁,是不是应该让老板给我买roth 401K比较好?像我们这种工薪阶
层是不是401K优先考虑,IRA其次?
如果我想让老板把本来401k给我match的那部分换成现金,我再投入到IRA里面去,对我
缴税有没有损失? 我的意思,是不是我的全年收入就变相提高了(假如老板match我5%
),年终要多报税了?
另外,在年终的W-2表上的收入是不是已经扣除了roth 401k/401k的投入的? 还是说在
买roth 401k的时候,是已经扣了税后的balance?
另外,原来的公司买了一些401k和roth401k, 现在离职了,需要把它们全部转成
roth401k吗?
问题比较多,比较菜,请老鸟不吝赐教。 非常感谢!!!
i**********o
发帖数: 5993
2
For you old accounts, do the following:
401K -> rollover IRA
Roth 401K -> Roth IRA
Company match is always before-tax 401k, so it will not increase your
taxable income.
c**********0
发帖数: 624
3
if that is a small company, you may need to check what do they have first.
some do not have a 401(k) because of filing requirements.
and as soon as you get that and the plan document allows rollover, you can
do that.
you can elect Roth option in 401(k) with after-tax money, so it is included
in your w-2 and subject to FICA.
for traditional 401(k), you defer the tax. and employer can match your
contribution or do non-elective contribution. if you withdrawal or take part
of that out, that is subject to tax and potential penalty.
x**********n
发帖数: 1262
4
thanks a lot!
老大的建议是不是从收益率上来考虑的?主要是IRA要比401k好(股票投资选择多)?
rollover IRA 是不是就是 traditional IRA?
IRA风险/弊端是什么? 我google了一下,主要就是离婚,破产什么的要从里面支付,
401K不受影响,是不是这样。
再弱弱问一下
:Company match is always before-tax 401k, so it will not increase your
你的意思W-2中一般包括了公司的401k match?
不管现在的公司给我cash还是打到401k,一样都是pre-tax 的收入?
我理解,如果它match到我的401k, 那应该不在我的W-2里面,只有最后退休提取的时
候要收税; 如果它给我现金/check, 我自己存到IRA或者其他用处,这个要算到我的W
-2中(相当于收入多了),那年终就要多报税了。
非常感谢!!!
x**********n
发帖数: 1262
5
Thanks a lot!
This company does all through its own financial service company.
Since my employer will match some for my 401K.
Can I ask him to contribute to my IRA? If not, he pay me the check and I
deposit it to my IRA. Will it accumulate to my annual income(W-2) and
increase my tax?

included
part

【在 c**********0 的大作中提到】
: if that is a small company, you may need to check what do they have first.
: some do not have a 401(k) because of filing requirements.
: and as soon as you get that and the plan document allows rollover, you can
: do that.
: you can elect Roth option in 401(k) with after-tax money, so it is included
: in your w-2 and subject to FICA.
: for traditional 401(k), you defer the tax. and employer can match your
: contribution or do non-elective contribution. if you withdrawal or take part
: of that out, that is subject to tax and potential penalty.

f*******n
发帖数: 12623
6


每个州的IRA保护是不同的。在有些州IRA对债务没有保护,有些州有更多保护。
w-2上的工资的数字包括Roth 401k contributions,但是不包括traditional 401k
contributions(因为那些是税前的,所以不纳税)。公司match永远是traditional
401k contributions。
没有公司给你cash这回事的。match就是放进401k的。
You still don't understand. There's (deductible) Traditional IRA and Roth
IRA. Traditional IRA works the same as Traditional 401k; they're both before
tax. Roth IRA works the same as Roth 401k; they're both after tax.
If you contribute to a deductible Traditional IRA, then that amount will not
count in your taxable income. It works the same as Traditional 401k.
If you rollover a Traditional 401k to a Traditional IRA, or rollover a Roth
401k to a Roth IRA, then of course it has no effect on your income. If you
rollover a Traditional 401k to a Roth IRA, then you need to pay tax on it.

【在 x**********n 的大作中提到】
: thanks a lot!
: 老大的建议是不是从收益率上来考虑的?主要是IRA要比401k好(股票投资选择多)?
: rollover IRA 是不是就是 traditional IRA?
: IRA风险/弊端是什么? 我google了一下,主要就是离婚,破产什么的要从里面支付,
: 401K不受影响,是不是这样。
: 再弱弱问一下
: :Company match is always before-tax 401k, so it will not increase your
: 你的意思W-2中一般包括了公司的401k match?
: 不管现在的公司给我cash还是打到401k,一样都是pre-tax 的收入?
: 我理解,如果它match到我的401k, 那应该不在我的W-2里面,只有最后退休提取的时

x**********n
发帖数: 1262
7
A Million Thanks!!!

before
not

【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】
:
: 是
: 每个州的IRA保护是不同的。在有些州IRA对债务没有保护,有些州有更多保护。
: w-2上的工资的数字包括Roth 401k contributions,但是不包括traditional 401k
: contributions(因为那些是税前的,所以不纳税)。公司match永远是traditional
: 401k contributions。
: 没有公司给你cash这回事的。match就是放进401k的。
: You still don't understand. There's (deductible) Traditional IRA and Roth
: IRA. Traditional IRA works the same as Traditional 401k; they're both before
: tax. Roth IRA works the same as Roth 401k; they're both after tax.

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