N****g
发帖数: 2829 | 1 投了一个猎头公司代理的职位，猎头问我现在工资，我按照网上找来的答案回答“due
to current company policy, I cannot disclose my current salary, but I would
love to discuss the salary your client can offer when both sides think there
is a good fit. ”心想这下可以把他打法了，没想到他回信“ as far as salary
goes...There is nothing that a company can legally bind you to so that you
don't disclose how much you make. Co. proprietary information is different.
Your salary is your salary. I need this information to present to my
client....What you make and what you would like to make are two different
things. Your company would also like its employees not to explore job
possibilities, but they can't prevent you from doing so. Ultimately you
must do what is best for you.”
那个职位要求5-10年经验，工资范围也写了，比我现在的工资高了50%，因为我现在的
工资是under pay的，我不想把现在工资告诉他。我就没理他。大家看看有没有必要回
？怎么回？
他代理的公司名字猎头已经给我了，我到那个公司网页也看到可以直接发email给那个
公司HR投简历，但担心会不会那个投了以后自动又转到猎头手里？ | l*****a
发帖数: 14598 | 2 你给公司直接投当然不会转到猎头手里
其实猎头基本帮不了什么。。
due
would
there
different.
【在 N****g 的大作中提到】
: 投了一个猎头公司代理的职位，猎头问我现在工资，我按照网上找来的答案回答“due
: to current company policy, I cannot disclose my current salary, but I would
: love to discuss the salary your client can offer when both sides think there
: is a good fit. ”心想这下可以把他打法了，没想到他回信“ as far as salary
: goes...There is nothing that a company can legally bind you to so that you
: don't disclose how much you make. Co. proprietary information is different.
: Your salary is your salary. I need this information to present to my
: client....What you make and what you would like to make are two different
: things. Your company would also like its employees not to explore job
: possibilities, but they can't prevent you from doing so. Ultimately you
| N****g
发帖数: 2829 | 3 但这家公司很奇怪，没有自己打广告。而是通过猎头打的广告。我找到这个也是从
Monster上那个猎头登的广告，然后几个email来回以后才套出了公司名字。所以我怀疑
这个公司的招人工作都外包给这个猎头了。
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 你给公司直接投当然不会转到猎头手里
: 其实猎头基本帮不了什么。。
:
: due
: would
: there
: different.
| c****o
发帖数: 1280 | 4 it does not hurt if you tell a recruiter your salary. | w**z
发帖数: 8232 | 5 给就给吧。也没什么大不了的。一般公司都是有标准的，什么职位给什么价钱。有了
Offer再讲价。如果公司喜欢你，只要别太离谱，都可以谈的。
另外，猎头佣金和你的工资是有联系的。你工资越高，他的Commission也越多。别把猎
头看作敌人，他是两头都帮，撮合你们是他的目的。 | N****g
发帖数: 2829 | 6 我现在是underpay，比这个职位广告里打的工资低很多。这种情况下讲是自讨苦吃。
活生生的例子见下。
http://www.mitbbs.ca/article_t/Working/31387595.html | w**z
发帖数: 8232 | 7 Even the company HR most of time asks for your current salary. You can't lie then.
What is the reason of getting under pay now? You can explain to them, and if
you are good and the company wants you, they will pay the fair market price
. | c******e
发帖数: 545 | 8 我当时找工作HR也问了，我也老老实实的说了（博后的工资），她就说我们肯定能
match这个，我心里想那不废话吗，我还没报我做RA的工资呢。。。最后给offer的时候
还是给了很一个很合理的工资。 | q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 9 说吧。没啥大不了。
due
would
there
different.
【在 N****g 的大作中提到】
: 投了一个猎头公司代理的职位，猎头问我现在工资，我按照网上找来的答案回答“due
: to current company policy, I cannot disclose my current salary, but I would
: love to discuss the salary your client can offer when both sides think there
: is a good fit. ”心想这下可以把他打法了，没想到他回信“ as far as salary
: goes...There is nothing that a company can legally bind you to so that you
: don't disclose how much you make. Co. proprietary information is different.
: Your salary is your salary. I need this information to present to my
: client....What you make and what you would like to make are two different
: things. Your company would also like its employees not to explore job
: possibilities, but they can't prevent you from doing so. Ultimately you
| N****g
发帖数: 2829 | 10 Good artical worth reading
http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/on-refusing-to-disclo
On Refusing to Disclose Your Salary in a Job Interview
By JENNIFER SARANOW SCHULTZ
In response to Wednesday’s Bucks post, “On Lying About Your Salary in Job
Interviews,” about whether it’s ethical to inflate your current salary
during a job interview, many readers recommended refusing to disclose your
salary in the first place. After all, by disclosing your salary, you may be
hurting your chances for a big pay increase.
“You don’t have to reveal your salary information,” said Ramit Sethi,
author of “I Will Teach You to Be Rich” and the popular blog of the same
name. “You’re under no obligation to reveal it at all.”
So how should you handle the question? Mr. Sethi shared his recommended
script and tips with us.
First, he said, when filling out any kind of job application form that asks
for your current or old salary information, write “NA.” Then, when you’re
talking with the recruiter and he or she asks you the same question,
respond with, “I’m sure we’ll find a number that works for both of us,
but for now, I want to make sure it’s a good fit.” You could also say, “I
’m really not comfortable with revealing that information but I am
interested in discussing some of the other ways I can help the company,” Mr
. Sethi said.
“Smoothly say you are not going to answer the question and refocus it on
how you can add value to the company,” he said, noting that job applicants
should make sure to practice with a friend before the actual discussion so
they can answer smoothly and firmly and don’t break down and divulge the
information.
More often than not, Mr. Sethi said, the recruiter will move on and the
issue of salary won’t come up again until you’re offered the job. At that
point, just make sure that the potential employer first gives you a range of
what it is willing to pay. Then, you can let the employer know if that’s
in line with what you expect.
Sometimes, though, a recruiter will respond that he or she needs to know
your current salary to move on and will act outraged or surprised that you
won’t give it. In this situation, if you’re really confident you’re going
to get the job, are a skilled negotiator and aren’t competing with many
other candidates, Mr. Sethi recommends responding with something like, “
Look, I’m not going to reveal my salary expectations or salary history. Let
’s move on.” And depending on whom you’re talking with, you can add, “I
’m sure the hiring manager (his or her name) wouldn’t want this to be
derailed just because I didn’t fill out one field on a form, but as you
know, I’m very interested” in the job.
But if the recruiter really persists, then the best bet at this point is to
reveal a “total comp” number, a number that represents your current total
compensation including salary and benefits (think gym discounts, retirement
account contributions, etc.)
For more of Mr. Sethi’s tips, check out his YouTube videos on common salary
negotiation mistakes and tactics and other advice here and here.
Meanwhile, other readers suggested declining to tell the employer what you
are currently making and offering instead to give the amount you’d like to
get paid — your reservation price. (Mr. Sethi said such techniques
theoretically would work as well, but since many people tend to break down
during interviews and disclose their salary information, it’s a good idea
to have the “total comp” figure handy.)
Have you refused to reveal a salary? If so, what technique did you use and
what happened? |
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