n*******e 发帖数: 2057 | 1 大家评比一下一年的笑话,竟然发现最经典的竟然是tg的新闻。情何以堪 | p*********w 发帖数: 23432 | 2 最惨的事情是胡77得知房价太低了,决定适当提高房价
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】 : 大家评比一下一年的笑话,竟然发现最经典的竟然是tg的新闻。情何以堪
| k****e 发帖数: 4262 | 3 没有了。the best always comes the last.
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】 : 大家评比一下一年的笑话,竟然发现最经典的竟然是tg的新闻。情何以堪
| s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 4 这个。。。其实好像是真的。廉租房就是这个价。就跟纽约的那个rent stablized
unit
真的有些每个月只要300美元一样。
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】 : 大家评比一下一年的笑话,竟然发现最经典的竟然是tg的新闻。情何以堪
| l*h 发帖数: 4124 | 5 瞎扯,你知道纽约的rent stabilized什么样吗?300美元?做梦去吧。rent
stabilized 2009年的标准是家庭收入18万以下,上东区最便宜的这种房子1700一个月
(studio)。rent stabilized也不一定比市场价便宜。
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 这个。。。其实好像是真的。廉租房就是这个价。就跟纽约的那个rent stablized : unit : 真的有些每个月只要300美元一样。
| s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 6 你自己少见多怪而已。要不你先问问你纽约的同学去?
你估计都不知道rent stabilization 是怎么操作的,也不知道其中背后的历史。
假如某个纽约的房子正好倒霉被划入rent control area,那么说吧,如果
三十年前就是由某个人的名义租下来了,那么今天那个人交的钱比三十年前
多不了多少。所以是真的有人每个月只交几百美元的。
当然,这种事情对于大部分人没有意义,尤其是那些新搬入纽约的人。
就像某些北京的机关和单位的房子对于老员工的租金仍然只是几十块,但是
对于一个新毕业的刚在北京找到工作的大学生而言没有意义。
这种事情听起来荒谬,但不等于不存在。我认识两个农大出来的人,在美国
已经工作10几年了,原来单位的房子一直没有退,反正每个月租金都不到一百。
所以留着做条后路。
但是,再重复一遍,免得你又像某些人那样蹦出来骂我造谣为中共贴金:
这种事情虽然存在,但是对于大部分老百姓,尤其是那些外地进入北京
工作和打工的老百姓,没有任何意义。
北京和上海的房子,其实伤害最深的是谁?是北京和上海的本地人么?
才不呢!他们那些人一般都早有单位发的或者父母那里继承下来的房子。
北京上海的房子其实压迫的是那些外来的外地人,比方说大学刚毕业不久的人。
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】 : 瞎扯,你知道纽约的rent stabilized什么样吗?300美元?做梦去吧。rent : stabilized 2009年的标准是家庭收入18万以下,上东区最便宜的这种房子1700一个月 : (studio)。rent stabilized也不一定比市场价便宜。
| e***y 发帖数: 4472 | 7 re
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 你自己少见多怪而已。要不你先问问你纽约的同学去? : 你估计都不知道rent stabilization 是怎么操作的,也不知道其中背后的历史。 : 假如某个纽约的房子正好倒霉被划入rent control area,那么说吧,如果 : 三十年前就是由某个人的名义租下来了,那么今天那个人交的钱比三十年前 : 多不了多少。所以是真的有人每个月只交几百美元的。 : 当然,这种事情对于大部分人没有意义,尤其是那些新搬入纽约的人。 : 就像某些北京的机关和单位的房子对于老员工的租金仍然只是几十块,但是 : 对于一个新毕业的刚在北京找到工作的大学生而言没有意义。 : 这种事情听起来荒谬,但不等于不存在。我认识两个农大出来的人,在美国 : 已经工作10几年了,原来单位的房子一直没有退,反正每个月租金都不到一百。
| l*h 发帖数: 4124 | 8 你才瞎胡扯,rent control是你1971年以前住进去的。rent stabilization要建造时间
、月租和收入都符合。就你这样什么都瞎扯的人还以为自己是当教授的料。
你就网上一搜就出来瞎放。我今年收到的政府文件给你贴一份:
New York City Rent Guidelines Board:
Rent-stabilized apartments are apartments in buildings of six or more units
built between Feb. 1, 1947, and Jan. 1, 1974. Tenants in buildings of six or
more units built before Feb. 1, 1947, who moved in after June 30, 1971, are
also covered by rent stabilization. A third category involves buildings
with three or more apartments built or extensively renovated since 1974 with
special tax benefits. Generally, these buildings are stabilized only while
the tax benefits continue.
The board notes that there are many exceptions to these general categories.
For example, if the legal rent exceeded $2,000 after a vacancy the unit may
be deregulated. Or, if the unit was in a building converted to a co-op it
may be deregulated upon vacancy. And a tenant living in a rent-stabilized
apartment with a rent higher than $2,000 a month whose family income exceeds
$175,000 a year for two consecutive years is no longer entitled to rent
stabilization, and the apartment may be deregulated.
The rent-stabilization system became law in 1969, a time when rents were
rising sharply in many post-World War II buildings. The system has
frequently been extended and amended, and now about 1 million apartments in
the city are covered by rent stabilization. Rent stabilized tenants are
protected from sharp increases in rent and have the right to renew their
leases. The Rent Guidelines Board sets the allowable percentage increase for
renewal leases each year.
Rent stabilization differs from rent control, a program that generally
applies to residential buildings constructed before February 1947 in
municipalities that have not declared an end to the post-World War II rental
housing emergency. A total of 51 municipalities have rent control,
including New York City, Albany, Buffalo and various cities, towns, and
villages in Albany, Erie, Nassau, Rensselaer, Schenectady and Westchester
Counties.
For an apartment to be under rent control, the tenant (or their lawful
successor such as a family member, spouse, or adult lifetime partner) must
have been living in that apartment continuously since before July 1, 1971.
When a rent controlled apartment becomes vacant, it either becomes rent
stabilized, or, if it is in a building with fewer than six units, it is
generally removed from regulation. About 50,000 apartments are covered by
rent control.
An apartment in a one- or two-family house must have a tenant in continuous
occupancy since April 1, 1953, to be subject to rent control. Once it is
vacated after that date, it is no longer subject to regulation. Previously
controlled apartments may have been decontrolled on various other grounds.
On rare occasion, a decontrolled apartment is ordered back under rent
control as a penalty for certain violations of the rent laws.
The law also provides that landlords may increase the rent by 1/40th the
cost of apartment improvements. [A 2008 report by a tenant advocacy group
said that landlords had been abusing the rule by claiming to have spent more
than they had actually spent. The report criticized the state’s housing
agency for failing to monitor how landlords have been applying the rent
increases. The city’s largest landlord group denounced the report as
misleading, and one of the property owners in the report defended the cost
of the improvements that the tenant had claimed were exaggerated.]
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 你自己少见多怪而已。要不你先问问你纽约的同学去? : 你估计都不知道rent stabilization 是怎么操作的,也不知道其中背后的历史。 : 假如某个纽约的房子正好倒霉被划入rent control area,那么说吧,如果 : 三十年前就是由某个人的名义租下来了,那么今天那个人交的钱比三十年前 : 多不了多少。所以是真的有人每个月只交几百美元的。 : 当然,这种事情对于大部分人没有意义,尤其是那些新搬入纽约的人。 : 就像某些北京的机关和单位的房子对于老员工的租金仍然只是几十块,但是 : 对于一个新毕业的刚在北京找到工作的大学生而言没有意义。 : 这种事情听起来荒谬,但不等于不存在。我认识两个农大出来的人,在美国 : 已经工作10几年了,原来单位的房子一直没有退,反正每个月租金都不到一百。
| s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 9 哟,还揪上劲了?给了你那么多台阶你都不下?
那我今天就打人打脸,让你没脸再上来喷。
http://www.rent-direct.com/blog/have-you-ever-wondered-about-rent-controlled-apartment-bargains/
John Burke pays $288 a month for a rent-stabilized studio apartment on
Manhattan’s Upper East Side....
But here’s the part that gets me; according to the New York Times story from the link, the gentleman pictured above, John Burke pays $288 per month at 218 E. 84th Street. That a pretty prime address. It’s not Park Avenue, but it’s pretty good. He’s been there since 1977, when he rented paying $ 65 a month.
http://www.dnainfo.com/20100831/downtown/tribeca-tenants-win-rentstabilization-case-against-landlord
TriBeCa Tenants Win Rent-Stabilization Case Against Landlord
Ed Rosner, a tenant leader, said at Tuesday's press conference that he
believes he should be paying about $925 a month for his apartment, but Gluck is charging him over $1,500.
这可是你自找的!你现在打算怎么样?你在waterworld 那里就这件事情
对我说了那么多脏话,你有点脸皮的话就对我道歉吧。
没有脸皮的话你爱干啥就干啥吧!
我都告诉过你几次了:我和你不一样!我说的话不一定符合你想听的内容,
但一定是有证据的!你估计平时都不看美国新闻,天天呆在网上就中国的消息
到处喷,所以这次裁了吧?
我最烦你们这种伪民主的人,所谓的民主其实就是“你作主”,
一点都听不进不同意见。
units
or
are
with
while
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】 : 你才瞎胡扯,rent control是你1971年以前住进去的。rent stabilization要建造时间 : 、月租和收入都符合。就你这样什么都瞎扯的人还以为自己是当教授的料。 : 你就网上一搜就出来瞎放。我今年收到的政府文件给你贴一份: : New York City Rent Guidelines Board: : Rent-stabilized apartments are apartments in buildings of six or more units : built between Feb. 1, 1947, and Jan. 1, 1974. Tenants in buildings of six or : more units built before Feb. 1, 1947, who moved in after June 30, 1971, are : also covered by rent stabilization. A third category involves buildings : with three or more apartments built or extensively renovated since 1974 with : special tax benefits. Generally, these buildings are stabilized only while
| l*h 发帖数: 4124 | 10 你偷换概念的本事真是跟真理部有的一拼,把公房和廉租房搞一起了。
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 你自己少见多怪而已。要不你先问问你纽约的同学去? : 你估计都不知道rent stabilization 是怎么操作的,也不知道其中背后的历史。 : 假如某个纽约的房子正好倒霉被划入rent control area,那么说吧,如果 : 三十年前就是由某个人的名义租下来了,那么今天那个人交的钱比三十年前 : 多不了多少。所以是真的有人每个月只交几百美元的。 : 当然,这种事情对于大部分人没有意义,尤其是那些新搬入纽约的人。 : 就像某些北京的机关和单位的房子对于老员工的租金仍然只是几十块,但是 : 对于一个新毕业的刚在北京找到工作的大学生而言没有意义。 : 这种事情听起来荒谬,但不等于不存在。我认识两个农大出来的人,在美国 : 已经工作10几年了,原来单位的房子一直没有退,反正每个月租金都不到一百。
| | | s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 11 另外,在你蹦出来就一个技术细节在找我的麻烦之前,我先声明一下:
我可分不清什么是rent control, 什么是rent stabilization。
我又不是律师。在我上面几个帖子里我把这几个概念是混在一起用的。
所以麻烦你不要就我用的那些个法律词语到底是否正确来狡辩。 | l*h 发帖数: 4124 | 12 原来你们小将的东西都是靠网上发现的个例,牛逼死了。
from the link, the gentleman pictured above, John Burke pays $288 per month
at 218 E. 84th Street. That a pretty prime address. It’s not Park Avenue,
but it’s pretty good. He’s been there since 1977, when he rented paying $
65 a month.
Gluck is charging him over $1,500.
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 哟,还揪上劲了?给了你那么多台阶你都不下? : 那我今天就打人打脸,让你没脸再上来喷。 : http://www.rent-direct.com/blog/have-you-ever-wondered-about-rent-controlled-apartment-bargains/ : John Burke pays $288 a month for a rent-stabilized studio apartment on : Manhattan’s Upper East Side.... : But here’s the part that gets me; according to the New York Times story from the link, the gentleman pictured above, John Burke pays $288 per month at 218 E. 84th Street. That a pretty prime address. It’s not Park Avenue, but it’s pretty good. He’s been there since 1977, when he rented paying $ 65 a month. : http://www.dnainfo.com/20100831/downtown/tribeca-tenants-win-rentstabilization-case-against-landlord : TriBeCa Tenants Win Rent-Stabilization Case Against Landlord : Ed Rosner, a tenant leader, said at Tuesday's press conference that he : believes he should be paying about $925 a month for his apartment, but Gluck is charging him over $1,500.
| s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 13 我什么时候把这个混到一起?我想我的原贴里讲的一清二楚!我什么时候
说那个公房是廉租房来着?
是你自己没有话讲了给我栽一个罪名而已吧?
另外,你说纽约没有300美元的廉租房呢?我找出的新闻你看了没有?
不要来装傻啊?不要转移话题啊?
当然,你还会说:
"你偷换概念的本事真是跟真理部有的一拼,把和rent control和rent
stabilization搞一起了"
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】 : 你偷换概念的本事真是跟真理部有的一拼,把公房和廉租房搞一起了。
| l*h 发帖数: 4124 | 14 你就回到70年代去拿下2010年代你梦里的教授职位吧
from the link, the gentleman pictured above, John Burke pays $288 per month
at 218 E. 84th Street. That a pretty prime address. It’s not Park Avenue,
but it’s pretty good. He’s been there since 1977, when he rented paying $
65 a month.
Gluck is charging him over $1,500.
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 哟,还揪上劲了?给了你那么多台阶你都不下? : 那我今天就打人打脸,让你没脸再上来喷。 : http://www.rent-direct.com/blog/have-you-ever-wondered-about-rent-controlled-apartment-bargains/ : John Burke pays $288 a month for a rent-stabilized studio apartment on : Manhattan’s Upper East Side.... : But here’s the part that gets me; according to the New York Times story from the link, the gentleman pictured above, John Burke pays $288 per month at 218 E. 84th Street. That a pretty prime address. It’s not Park Avenue, but it’s pretty good. He’s been there since 1977, when he rented paying $ 65 a month. : http://www.dnainfo.com/20100831/downtown/tribeca-tenants-win-rentstabilization-case-against-landlord : TriBeCa Tenants Win Rent-Stabilization Case Against Landlord : Ed Rosner, a tenant leader, said at Tuesday's press conference that he : believes he should be paying about $925 a month for his apartment, but Gluck is charging him over $1,500.
| l*h 发帖数: 4124 | 15 这么重要的概念你都不清楚就瞎jb扯?
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 另外,在你蹦出来就一个技术细节在找我的麻烦之前,我先声明一下: : 我可分不清什么是rent control, 什么是rent stabilization。 : 我又不是律师。在我上面几个帖子里我把这几个概念是混在一起用的。 : 所以麻烦你不要就我用的那些个法律词语到底是否正确来狡辩。
| s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 16 呸。
我是很早以前看新闻就看过很多类似的case了。
背景是前几年纽约的房东们想把这个房租调控的条款搞下去,所以
搞了好多条这样的新闻。
对了,你没有别的话说了?我说过那个不是个例么?我不是一直强调着说
这种情况虽然存在但是不适用于大部分人么?
你如果还有点羞耻之心就老实道歉吧!不要再找借口了!
month
$
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】 : 原来你们小将的东西都是靠网上发现的个例,牛逼死了。 : : from the link, the gentleman pictured above, John Burke pays $288 per month : at 218 E. 84th Street. That a pretty prime address. It’s not Park Avenue, : but it’s pretty good. He’s been there since 1977, when he rented paying $ : 65 a month. : Gluck is charging him over $1,500.
| P***y 发帖数: 529 | 17 你们别吵了
这个事情有一集CSI:NY就有为了rent control杀死租户的
我当时放狗搜了一下,发现有不少评价条目说这东西连老律师都彻不清楚
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 另外,在你蹦出来就一个技术细节在找我的麻烦之前,我先声明一下: : 我可分不清什么是rent control, 什么是rent stabilization。 : 我又不是律师。在我上面几个帖子里我把这几个概念是混在一起用的。 : 所以麻烦你不要就我用的那些个法律词语到底是否正确来狡辩。
| l*h 发帖数: 4124 | 18 你有这个偷换概念的本事,怪不得敢在兽医学院里面高谈阔论现代人类医学。好多条?
你说到底多少吧?
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 呸。 : 我是很早以前看新闻就看过很多类似的case了。 : 背景是前几年纽约的房东们想把这个房租调控的条款搞下去,所以 : 搞了好多条这样的新闻。 : 对了,你没有别的话说了?我说过那个不是个例么?我不是一直强调着说 : 这种情况虽然存在但是不适用于大部分人么? : 你如果还有点羞耻之心就老实道歉吧!不要再找借口了! : : month : $
| s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 19 总比你连一点基本情况都不了解就出来喷X强!(至于X是什么,就看你自己
的表现啦~~~,尤其是现在大家都知道你被打脸了)
而且这个区别重要么?那么重要的话你不早点出来喷?还等到我为了堵你的
口先讲出来了才喷?
而且你为什么故意忽略我贴的两条新闻?第一条新闻里面那个人住的
可是rent stabilization 的哟,280多块哦。
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】 : 这么重要的概念你都不清楚就瞎jb扯?
| s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 20 我只能说你比较不要脸
我贴的那两条新闻你看了没有?不要装傻啊!
两个都是rent stabilization哦!
我跟你先老实交待我不懂rent control, rent stabilization 的区别,是因为
我谦虚。但是你呢?
你贴出来的那个东西,可是rent stabilization 条约哟,那你先跟我说明白了,
你到底是跟我吵rent control, 还是rent stabilization? 来来来,我们先
说个明白!免得你一会又来耍赖!
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】 : 你有这个偷换概念的本事,怪不得敢在兽医学院里面高谈阔论现代人类医学。好多条? : 你说到底多少吧?
| | | n****g 发帖数: 14743 | 21 铲子不讲真相,P民越看越乐
【在 n*******e 的大作中提到】 : 大家评比一下一年的笑话,竟然发现最经典的竟然是tg的新闻。情何以堪
| d*****y 发帖数: 1073 | 22 犹太同事在upper west prime area租房,从奶奶那里继承的lease,1200租了个3-
bedroom.
羡慕~
我的厕所业的1200了。
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 你自己少见多怪而已。要不你先问问你纽约的同学去? : 你估计都不知道rent stabilization 是怎么操作的,也不知道其中背后的历史。 : 假如某个纽约的房子正好倒霉被划入rent control area,那么说吧,如果 : 三十年前就是由某个人的名义租下来了,那么今天那个人交的钱比三十年前 : 多不了多少。所以是真的有人每个月只交几百美元的。 : 当然,这种事情对于大部分人没有意义,尤其是那些新搬入纽约的人。 : 就像某些北京的机关和单位的房子对于老员工的租金仍然只是几十块,但是 : 对于一个新毕业的刚在北京找到工作的大学生而言没有意义。 : 这种事情听起来荒谬,但不等于不存在。我认识两个农大出来的人,在美国 : 已经工作10几年了,原来单位的房子一直没有退,反正每个月租金都不到一百。
| W********r 发帖数: 75 | 23 你俩争的事情没有任何意义
不管谁的对,哪怕是都对,这个新闻都是以点代面欺骗大众
最关键的是,当着你的面把你当白痴,看你惊呆了就以为你信了,戏法耍完得意收工走了
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】 : 我只能说你比较不要脸 : 我贴的那两条新闻你看了没有?不要装傻啊! : 两个都是rent stabilization哦! : 我跟你先老实交待我不懂rent control, rent stabilization 的区别,是因为 : 我谦虚。但是你呢? : 你贴出来的那个东西,可是rent stabilization 条约哟,那你先跟我说明白了, : 你到底是跟我吵rent control, 还是rent stabilization? 来来来,我们先 : 说个明白!免得你一会又来耍赖!
| w******r 发帖数: 3156 | 24 正解。
那位艳阳天找了个米国的例子,姑且不论是不是实际情况,跟中国有毛关系??
胡77就是现代版的皇帝的新装。
走了
【在 W********r 的大作中提到】 : 你俩争的事情没有任何意义 : 不管谁的对,哪怕是都对,这个新闻都是以点代面欺骗大众 : 最关键的是,当着你的面把你当白痴,看你惊呆了就以为你信了,戏法耍完得意收工走了
| d********f 发帖数: 43471 | 25 you sure? I think the licenses of these lawyers should be revoked since it
only needs less than 10 secs to do a google
Is there a difference between RENT CONTROL and RENT STABILIZATION?
Some of the people who email us say "rent controlled" but actually MEAN rent
stabilized -- they do not know the difference.
Why is it so hard to be accurate? There is a difference between rent control
and rent stabilization, as only about 40,000 rent controlled units exist vs
. about one million stabilized units, and rent control has a different set
of regulations than rent stabilization.
The term "rent regulated" encompasses both rent controlled and rent
stabilized units. By the way, the Rent Guidelines Board has the
responsibility for setting rent adjustments for rent stabilized apartments.
We have no jurisdiction over rent controlled apartments, which is the
responsibility of the NY State Division of Housing and Community Renewal (
DHCR).
Rent Control:
The rent control program generally applies to residential buildings
constructed before February 1947 in municipalities that have not declared an
end to the postwar rental housing emergency. A total of 51 municipalities
have rent control, including New York City, Albany, Buffalo and various
cities, towns, and villages in Albany, Erie, Nassau, Rensselaer, Schenectady
and Westchester counties.
For an apartment to be under rent control, the tenant (or their lawful
successor such as a family member, spouse, or adult lifetime partner) must
have been living in that apartment continuously since before July 1, 1971.
When a rent controlled apartment becomes vacant, it either becomes rent
stabilized, or, if it is in a building with fewer than six units, it is
generally removed from regulation. For more information on succession and
the definition of a family member, check out the fact sheet.
An apartment in a one- or two-family house must have a tenant in
continuous occupancy since April 1, 1953 in order to be subject to rent
control. Once it is vacated after that date, it is no longer subject to
regulation. Previously controlled apartments may have been decontrolled on
various other grounds. On rare occasion, a decontrolled apartment is ordered
back under rent control as a penalty for certain violations of the rent
laws.
Rent Stabilization:
In NYC, rent stabilized apartments are those apartments in buildings of
six or more units built between February 1, 1947 and January 1, 1974.
Tenants in buildings of six or more units built before February 1, 1947
and who moved in after June 30, 1971 are also covered by rent stabilization.
A third category of rent stabilized apartments covers buildings with
three or more apartments constructed or extensively renovated since 1974
with special tax benefits. Generally, these buildings are stabilized only
while the tax benefits continue.
Many Exceptions:
THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXCEPTIONS TO BOTH OF THESE GENERAL CATEGORIES. For
example, if the legal rent exceeded $2,000 following a vacancy the unit may
be deregulated. Or, if the unit was in a building converted to a co-op it
may be deregulated upon vacancy.
To determine if your apartment is under rent stabilization or rent
control, contact the New York State Division of Housing and Community
Renewal at (718) 739-6400 or (212) 961-8930.
【在 P***y 的大作中提到】 : 你们别吵了 : 这个事情有一集CSI:NY就有为了rent control杀死租户的 : 我当时放狗搜了一下,发现有不少评价条目说这东西连老律师都彻不清楚
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