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b****n 发帖数: 44 | 2 证明方舟子就是在无理取闹把
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : 这个逻辑我看不懂
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w*********r 发帖数: 42116 | 3 天才过去说不写底稿的。
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : 这个逻辑我看不懂
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M*****n 发帖数: 16729 | 4 不懂了吧?
可以做C14H3同位素分析年代的。
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : 这个逻辑我看不懂
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 5 shit... what you want ppl do? because this stupid sick fang said something,
he needs to write another book to prove?
ppl have life and their own schedule, and the right not to prove they are
innocent since they naturally are.
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : 这个逻辑我看不懂
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 6 这个是纸的吧?找张旧址就行了,说到作假,200块找个电线杆子上的号码打一下就好
【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】 : 不懂了吧? : 可以做C14H3同位素分析年代的。
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M*****n 发帖数: 16729 | 7 你不要泄密呀。
韩寒手抄的时候,未必想到过用十几年前的纸哦。
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : 这个是纸的吧?找张旧址就行了,说到作假,200块找个电线杆子上的号码打一下就好
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 8 are you sick also? ...shit...
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : 这个是纸的吧?找张旧址就行了,说到作假,200块找个电线杆子上的号码打一下就好
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 9 就事论事,别搞老将那一套下三烂
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : are you sick also? ...shit...
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 10 are you saying he rewrote the whole thing in the past few days with the old
papers he managed to find.??
or he was predicting everything a while ago and did this already??
shoooot, what else you want?
no evidence no justice.
fang is really a stupid crazydog, ppl should reasonable things
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : 就事论事,别搞老将那一套下三烂
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 11 possible!
old
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : are you saying he rewrote the whole thing in the past few days with the old : papers he managed to find.?? : or he was predicting everything a while ago and did this already?? : shoooot, what else you want? : no evidence no justice. : fang is really a stupid crazydog, ppl should reasonable things
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 12 see? this is fang's logic!
possibility can't make any evidence unless the confidence range is truly
high like DNA testing,99.9%.
otherwise nothing.
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : possible! : : old
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 13 you have the right to speak freely what ever you want
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : see? this is fang's logic! : possibility can't make any evidence unless the confidence range is truly : high like DNA testing,99.9%. : otherwise nothing.
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 14 也有可能他当年就自己抄过一遍。这没什么奇怪的。你想想,他爸如果想利用他发表一
本书,让他抄一遍是很自然的考虑,否则字体是个很大的问题。
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : possible! : : old
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 15 freedom is always under circumstances, one of which is not to hurt innocent
others.
innocence is tested by evidence. fang is just miserably biting. sick man.
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : you have the right to speak freely what ever you want
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 16 your words are just judgemental statements
no beef.
innocent
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : freedom is always under circumstances, one of which is not to hurt innocent : others. : innocence is tested by evidence. fang is just miserably biting. sick man.
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a**********y 发帖数: 2367 | 17
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : 这个逻辑我看不懂
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 18 很好看的卡通,不过不能代替逻辑
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 19 only until a valid evidence comes out, you can not claim things like what
fang is saying now. also han is innocent till then. this is how the law
system works in both China and us.
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : your words are just judgemental statements : no beef. : : innocent
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 20 you are not familiar with US laws. Period
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : only until a valid evidence comes out, you can not claim things like what : fang is saying now. also han is innocent till then. this is how the law : system works in both China and us.
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 21 you think your "possible guess" can be used by any judge in us?
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : you are not familiar with US laws. Period
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 22 just check OJ Simpons' case
double check
man, some people are so ignorant.
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : you think your "possible guess" can be used by any judge in us?
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 23 I knew you will use this case.
what's the result of that case?
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : just check OJ Simpons' case : double check : man, some people are so ignorant.
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 24 go educate yourself
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : I knew you will use this case. : what's the result of that case?
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 25 Simpson was judged innocent, due to no sufficient evidence.
now confused by you. hh is guilty with even weaker evidence???
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : go educate yourself
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 26 Simpson wasn't acquitted due to insufficient evidence, there was DNA
evidence. But somehow, the jury consider DNA evidence to be insufficient,
and jury decision matters.
So basically the jury acquitted Simpson.
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : Simpson was judged innocent, due to no sufficient evidence. : now confused by you. hh is guilty with even weaker evidence???
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w*l 发帖数: 2550 | 27 这些个矬子见到比自己高的就想扳掉人家一截子,证据不证据的对它们根本不重要。
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : Simpson was judged innocent, due to no sufficient evidence. : now confused by you. hh is guilty with even weaker evidence???
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 28
yes, "evidence to be insufficient".
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : Simpson wasn't acquitted due to insufficient evidence, there was DNA : evidence. But somehow, the jury consider DNA evidence to be insufficient, : and jury decision matters. : So basically the jury acquitted Simpson.
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b*****s 发帖数: 11267 | 29 他写的时候是在学校,所以同学们看到了
然后你可以说他默写
可他是住校,两星期回家一次
然后你说他是抄写
可这样一来“原稿”谁看见了?现在在哪?
给了手稿就解释了很多事情
好比大家对paper有疑问,人家会给出原始数据
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : 这个逻辑我看不懂
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 30 No. Evidence was sufficient. But jury said it's insufficient anyway.
Jury is the key.
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : yes, "evidence to be insufficient".
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 31 Simpson is not innnocent!
you didnot do your homework.
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : Simpson was judged innocent, due to no sufficient evidence. : now confused by you. hh is guilty with even weaker evidence???
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 32
no.
evidence is not sufficient enough to convince the jury.
It left too much space for the jury to argue.
Moreover, even if what you are saying is rite, this case actually still
supports my point:
"Simpon can be innocent even when there is strong evidence", what about HH,
guilty with much weaker evidence??
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : No. Evidence was sufficient. But jury said it's insufficient anyway. : Jury is the key.
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 33
he was judged guilty in other cases, not in that famous murder case, in
which he was "acquitted".
【在 h*c 的大作中提到】 : Simpson is not innnocent! : you didnot do your homework.
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 34 DNA evidence is not sufficient?
That's a joke.
,
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : he was judged guilty in other cases, not in that famous murder case, in : which he was "acquitted".
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 35
no.
DNA testing is sufficient,
but how the DNA sample was presented is the key point under arguing.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : DNA evidence is not sufficient? : That's a joke. : : ,
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 36 You can always question that in any DNA sampling.
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : no. : DNA testing is sufficient, : but how the DNA sample was presented is the key point under arguing.
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 37
no, not me,
that's what happend in the court, US federal court.
that's the reason why this evidence was considered insufficient.
like htc said, do some home work.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : You can always question that in any DNA sampling.
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 38 This is not even the most ridiculous case ever. Look up the Vincent Chin
case.
Just because it happened in US federal court, doesn't mean it's just or
even
professional.
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : no, not me, : that's what happend in the court, US federal court. : that's the reason why this evidence was considered insufficient. : like htc said, do some home work.
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 39 Simpson trail just proved that when everything is determined by the jury,
anything can happen. Black can be white, up can be down, in can be out. |
g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 40
that's how the system works, and that's why they need jury to observe the
whole process,
which was designed to show respect to individuals.
but that's another thing, in HH's case, before any jury, the judge will
directly reject Fang's evidences which are too weak to be any evidence, but
insanely ridiculous "I guess". Fang is a boy in this case.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : This is not even the most ridiculous case ever. Look up the Vincent Chin : case. : Just because it happened in US federal court, doesn't mean it's just or : even : professional.
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 41 This is not a trial.
but
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : that's how the system works, and that's why they need jury to observe the : whole process, : which was designed to show respect to individuals. : but that's another thing, in HH's case, before any jury, the judge will : directly reject Fang's evidences which are too weak to be any evidence, but : insanely ridiculous "I guess". Fang is a boy in this case.
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 42
not a trial so far, but dirty rude media attack, which shows how miserable
Fang is. and this is actually why many ppl now making jokes on Fang's "team"
.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : This is not a trial. : : but
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 43 I think Han's words are more qualified as "dirty rude media attack".
And do I need to say that vulgar cartoon that is being posted all around
internet millions of times a day? That's what I call "dirty rude media
attack", and vicious.
miserable
team"
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : not a trial so far, but dirty rude media attack, which shows how miserable : Fang is. and this is actually why many ppl now making jokes on Fang's "team" : .
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 44
i would classify those as "fight-back to dirty rude media attack in the
same way". Fang initiated this attack. Well maybe 2nd, but HH didn't
definitely.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : I think Han's words are more qualified as "dirty rude media attack". : And do I need to say that vulgar cartoon that is being posted all around : internet millions of times a day? That's what I call "dirty rude media : attack", and vicious. : : miserable : team"
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 45 Can you quote some dirty words from Fang?
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : i would classify those as "fight-back to dirty rude media attack in the : same way". Fang initiated this attack. Well maybe 2nd, but HH didn't : definitely.
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 46
by "dirty", i mean those "questioning without any valid evidence".
ppl should fight back, no reason I should response a sick man but if he didn't,
his respects would be ruined a lot.
Fang has no cost but easily ruined HH, who is good sunny and sampler post-
80s. this is why I said fang is dirty.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : Can you quote some dirty words from Fang?
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 47 Oh, I see. Han Han cannot be questioned.
t,
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : by "dirty", i mean those "questioning without any valid evidence". : ppl should fight back, no reason I should response a sick man but if he didn't, : his respects would be ruined a lot. : Fang has no cost but easily ruined HH, who is good sunny and sampler post- : 80s. this is why I said fang is dirty.
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 48
no. he could and should, and I think he already did a lot of such fight back
in the past.
but this time, what Fang proposed to question? listed some so called
inconsistent facts, and claimed HH is a fake??
Also, he used quite a few stupid ppl's material to suppose, "Da Chun Lv", "
Director Doc", shoot,
hard to trust his credit, Fang is really making a joke for this new year
holiday.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : Oh, I see. Han Han cannot be questioned. : : t,
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 49 Questioning someone is way different from a legal trial. You have this kind
of questioning going on all the time.
The rule of innocent until proven guilty only works in legal context. When
it comes to someone's credibility, it can be questioned as long as there are
"inconsistency".
back
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : no. he could and should, and I think he already did a lot of such fight back : in the past. : but this time, what Fang proposed to question? listed some so called : inconsistent facts, and claimed HH is a fake?? : Also, he used quite a few stupid ppl's material to suppose, "Da Chun Lv", " : Director Doc", shoot, : hard to trust his credit, Fang is really making a joke for this new year : holiday.
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 50 I have to say this but
please don't waste your time on somebody who is brain challenged.
kind
are
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : Questioning someone is way different from a legal trial. You have this kind : of questioning going on all the time. : The rule of innocent until proven guilty only works in legal context. When : it comes to someone's credibility, it can be questioned as long as there are : "inconsistency". : : back
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g********e 发帖数: 1142 | 51
kind
are
in that case, questioning was held as a private activity:
you and your questioning committee hide from public and do the questionnaire
with paper records.
not like what Fang's doing. No other words, just dirty media attach can
describe such disgusting thing.
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : Questioning someone is way different from a legal trial. You have this kind : of questioning going on all the time. : The rule of innocent until proven guilty only works in legal context. When : it comes to someone's credibility, it can be questioned as long as there are : "inconsistency". : : back
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j***b 发帖数: 5901 | 52 Exactly. Han's dirty media attack really disgusted me.
questionnaire
【在 g********e 的大作中提到】 : : kind : are : in that case, questioning was held as a private activity: : you and your questioning committee hide from public and do the questionnaire : with paper records. : not like what Fang's doing. No other words, just dirty media attach can : describe such disgusting thing.
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N***c 发帖数: 1090 | 53 泼脏水和质疑还是很好区分的
我可以说你做的工作质量不够好,但我不能说:看这家伙干成这样,毕业文凭一定是假
的吧,上学的时候一定经常作弊
kind
are
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】 : Questioning someone is way different from a legal trial. You have this kind : of questioning going on all the time. : The rule of innocent until proven guilty only works in legal context. When : it comes to someone's credibility, it can be questioned as long as there are : "inconsistency". : : back
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h*c 发帖数: 1859 | 54 u can say that without any problem
【在 N***c 的大作中提到】 : 泼脏水和质疑还是很好区分的 : 我可以说你做的工作质量不够好,但我不能说:看这家伙干成这样,毕业文凭一定是假 : 的吧,上学的时候一定经常作弊 : : kind : are
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