s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 1 现在共有9例， 上海2例，浙江2例，安徽1例，江苏4例，其地域和长江的流向高度吻合
，也可能和病猪肉的销售和消费有关系。
禽流感和猪流感有一定共通性，是可以发生交互感染的。
当局还是尽早针对病死猪做好防疫措施，最好焚化尸体，另外在所有死猪集中爆发的地
点进行H7N9病毒筛查，做好预警。 |
P*A
发帖数: 7996 | 2 你觉得是病毒从黄浦江朔流而上爬到江苏安徽的，还是死猪从安徽一路飘下来到黄浦江？
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 现在共有9例， 上海2例，浙江2例，安徽1例，江苏4例，其地域和长江的流向高度吻合
: ，也可能和病猪肉的销售和消费有关系。
: 禽流感和猪流感有一定共通性，是可以发生交互感染的。
: 当局还是尽早针对病死猪做好防疫措施，最好焚化尸体，另外在所有死猪集中爆发的地
: 点进行H7N9病毒筛查，做好预警。
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 3 从安徽一路下来
江？
【在 P*A 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得是病毒从黄浦江朔流而上爬到江苏安徽的，还是死猪从安徽一路飘下来到黄浦江？
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c*****g
发帖数: 492 | 4 我认为是疫情爆发--->大量猪死亡--->死猪贩子被抓--->猪卖不出去--->猪投长江--->
疫情大面积扩散
无论如何应该抓到那个始作俑者 |
P*A
发帖数: 7996 | 5 你认为这些死猪不是从嘉兴来的？
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 从安徽一路下来
:
: 江？
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 6 国际投行高盛也在安徽黄山建立多个养猪场，高盛的猪不知如何？ |
s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 7 死猪沿江而下，并传染猪流感，一路都有猪瘟疫情也有可能
【在 P*A 的大作中提到】
: 你认为这些死猪不是从嘉兴来的？
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 8 2013年3月26日消息，安徽巢湖，24日，有读者反映称，在巢湖市黄麓镇大河甸村巢湖
岸边，有10多头死猪。附近居民称，前段时间看到一辆白色货车拉着死猪到此丢弃。昨
天下午，记者将此事通报给了巢湖市畜牧兽医局，局长任俊涛表示，已安排专人到现场
，今天将打捞死猪并进行无害化处理。 |
s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 9 前一段时间，黄浦江的死猪事件在社会上引起了很大的关注，而这两天安徽明光市管店
镇的一些养猪大户也向我们节目反映说，他们那里也有很多死猪，没有经过深埋，没有
经过焚烧等无害化的处理，而是被人为的随意抛弃和处置。 |
s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 10 民网合肥3月25日电(记者李阔常国水) 董铺水库是合肥人的“大水缸”。近日有市民发
现董铺水库的水面上漂起了几头死猪，让人担忧。 |
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 11 中国黄山介绍. .新安江内有死猪望打捞（屯溪区）3月22日. 反映事项：有观众来电反
映：新安江延伸段屯浦归帆河段内有一只死猪污染水源，望有关 ... |
l**k
发帖数: 45267 | 12 给点知识吧，h7n9是禽流感病毒。。。。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 现在共有9例， 上海2例，浙江2例，安徽1例，江苏4例，其地域和长江的流向高度吻合
: ，也可能和病猪肉的销售和消费有关系。
: 禽流感和猪流感有一定共通性，是可以发生交互感染的。
: 当局还是尽早针对病死猪做好防疫措施，最好焚化尸体，另外在所有死猪集中爆发的地
: 点进行H7N9病毒筛查，做好预警。
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 13 你不知道禽流感有时候会传染给猪吧
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: 给点知识吧，h7n9是禽流感病毒。。。。
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 14 截至昨日记者发稿时，墨西哥疑因猪流感死者已达149人，美国确诊的猪流感患者也
已增至40人，光纽约市皇后区一所中学就又有20名学生感染猪流感。猪流感已在全球拉
响警报，世卫组织发布的三级警告已提至四级。广东专家究竟如何看待此次猪流感疫情
？普通市民又能如何主动积极预防？记者就此采访了多位专家，从对疫情的解读、对感
染者的分析、中西医预防手段等多方面，为读者进行详细介绍。
--------------
猪是新型流感病毒的“混合器”
猪流感可以传播给人其实并非首次发现。据许锐恒介绍，根据美国疾控中心的监测
数据，从2005年12月至2009年2月，美国10州共报告过12例人感染猪流感病例。“而在
此之前已经证实的是，猪除可感染猪流感病毒外，还可以感染人流感病毒和禽流感病毒
，当不同种病毒同时感染猪时，各种病毒可以在猪体内重组(基因交换)而混合生成一种
新的猪流感病毒。”许锐恒说。 |
l**k
发帖数: 45267 | 15 你是科学通才，你还检测过长江死猪了是吧？
http://news.xinhuanet.com/health/2013-04/03/c_124538980.htm
卢洪洲表示，从理论上来讲，禽流感大都来自禽类，也不能排除来自猪或者其他动物。
但是，上海黄浦江上游漂浮死猪来自浙江，当地并没有发现禽流感。上海感染H7N9死亡
病例，则发生在相对距离较远的闵行区。
此外，死猪事件中导致猪死亡的病毒是猪圆环病毒，只传染猪不传染人。流感、禽
流感病毒会不断变异产生新的亚型，但是与猪圆环病毒无关。
据悉，根据农业部兽医局和上海市农委的要求，上海市动物疾控中心4月1日对近期
打捞上来的黄浦江上游漂浮死猪抽检的34份留存样品，进行了禽流感通用引物检测，未
发现禽流感病毒。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 你不知道禽流感有时候会传染给猪吧
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 16 应继续检测，另外不排除死猪腐烂后样品不容易检测到
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: 你是科学通才，你还检测过长江死猪了是吧？
: http://news.xinhuanet.com/health/2013-04/03/c_124538980.htm
: 卢洪洲表示，从理论上来讲，禽流感大都来自禽类，也不能排除来自猪或者其他动物。
: 但是，上海黄浦江上游漂浮死猪来自浙江，当地并没有发现禽流感。上海感染H7N9死亡
: 病例，则发生在相对距离较远的闵行区。
: 此外，死猪事件中导致猪死亡的病毒是猪圆环病毒，只传染猪不传染人。流感、禽
: 流感病毒会不断变异产生新的亚型，但是与猪圆环病毒无关。
: 据悉，根据农业部兽医局和上海市农委的要求，上海市动物疾控中心4月1日对近期
: 打捞上来的黄浦江上游漂浮死猪抽检的34份留存样品，进行了禽流感通用引物检测，未
: 发现禽流感病毒。
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 17 ird flu kills more than 60 per cent of its human victims, but doesn't easily
pass from person to person. Swine flu can be spread with a sneeze or
handshake, but kills only a small fraction of the people it infects.
So what happens if they mix?
This is the scenario that has some scientists worried. The two viruses meet
— possibly in Asia, where bird flu is endemic — and combine into a new bug
that is both highly contagious and lethal and can spread around the world.
Scientists are unsure how likely this possibility is, but note that the new
swine flu strain — a never-before-seen mixture of pig, human and bird
viruses — has shown itself to be especially adept at snatching
evolutionarily advantageous genetic material from other flu viruses.
"This particular virus seems to have this unique ability to pick up other
genes," said leading virologist Dr. Robert Webster, whose team discovered an
ancestor of the current flu virus at a North Carolina pig farm in 1998.
The current swine flu strain — known as H1N1 — has sickened more than 2,
300 people in 24 countries. While people can catch bird flu from birds, the
bird flu virus — H5N1 — does not easily jump from person to person. It has
killed at least 258 people worldwide since it began to ravage poultry
stocks in Asia in late 2003.
The World Health Organization reported two new human cases of bird flu on
Wednesday. One patient is recovering in Egypt, while another died in Vietnam
— a reminder that the H5N1 virus is far from gone.
"Do not drop the ball in monitoring H5N1," WHO Director-General Margaret
Chan told a meeting of Asia's top health officials in Bangkok on Friday by
video link. "We have no idea how H5N1 will behave under the pressure of a
pandemic."
Experts have long feared that bird flu could mutate into a form that spreads
easily among people. The past three flu pandemics — the 1918 Spanish flu,
the 1957-58 Asian flu and the Hong Kong flu of 1968-69 — were all linked to
birds, though some scientists believe pigs also played a role in 1918.
Webster, who works at St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital in Memphis,
Tenn., said bird flu should be a worry now. Bird flu is endemic in parts of
Asia and Africa, and cases of swine flu have already been confirmed in South
Korea and Hong Kong.
"My great worry is that when this H1N1 virus gets into the epicenters for
H5N1 in Indonesia, Egypt and China, we may have real problems," he told The
Associated Press. "We have to watch what's going on very diligently now."
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are extraordinarily busy
trying to understand the swine flu virus itself, and haven't had time to
break off staff to look at the possibility of a swine flu-bird flu mix,
spokesman Dave Daigle said.
Malik Peiris, a flu expert at Hong Kong University, said the more immediate
worry is that swine flu will mix with regular flu viruses, as flu season
begins in the Southern Hemisphere. It is unclear what such a combination
would produce.
But he said there are indications that scenario is possible. Peiris noted
that the swine flu virus jumped from a farmworker in Canada and infected
about 220 pigs. The worker and the pigs recovered, but the incident showed
how easily the virus can leap to a different species.
"It will get passed back to pigs and then probably go from pigs to humans,"
Peiris said. "So there would be opportunities for further reassortments to
occur with viruses in pigs."
He said so far bird flu hasn't established itself in pigs — but that could
change.
"H5N1 itself has not got established in pigs," he said. "If that were to
happen and then these two viruses were both established in pigs in Asia,
that would be quite a worrying scenario."
Michael Osterholm, an infectious disease specialist at the University of
Minnesota who has advised the U.S. government on flu preparations, said
while flu experts are discussing the scenario, he has yet to see specific
evidence causing him to think it will happen.
"Everything with influenza is a huge guessing game because Mother Nature
holds all the rules, and we don't even know what they are, so anything's
possible," he said. "We don't have any evidence that this particular
reassortment is that much more likely to pick up H5N1 than any other
reassortment out there."
"We don't have to put these things together," he added. "This is not
chocolate and peanut butter running into each other in the dark hallway."
But there is in fact discussion of putting them together — in a high-
security laboratory — to see what a combination would look like, according
to Webster. Similar tests have been done at the CDC mixing bird flu and
seasonal human flu, resulting in a weak product, he said.
Daigle, the CDC spokesman, said the agency wants to look at the question in
the future.
Webster has done groundbreaking work on both swine and bird flus in his 40-
year career, and has followed the evolution of the current swine flu strain
from a virus that sickened a handful of people who worked with North
Carolina hogs into a bug that has spread from person to person around the
world.
He is closely involved in the global effort to analyze what the virus might
do next. It has killed 42 people in Mexico and two in Texas, but so far has
not proven very deadly elsewhere, leading to some criticism that the World
Health Organization's warnings of a potential pandemic have been overblown.
Webster said underestimating the swine flu virus would be a huge mistake.
"This H1N1 hasn't been overblown. It's a puppy, it's an infant, and it's
growing," he said. "This virus has got the whole human population in the
world to breed in — it's just happened. What we have to do is to watch it,
and it may become a wimp and disappear, or it may become nasty." |
e*****s
发帖数: 7359 | |
d**********t
发帖数: 20415 | 19 我才发现，这货是职业5美分...
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: 你是科学通才，你还检测过长江死猪了是吧？
: http://news.xinhuanet.com/health/2013-04/03/c_124538980.htm
: 卢洪洲表示，从理论上来讲，禽流感大都来自禽类，也不能排除来自猪或者其他动物。
: 但是，上海黄浦江上游漂浮死猪来自浙江，当地并没有发现禽流感。上海感染H7N9死亡
: 病例，则发生在相对距离较远的闵行区。
: 此外，死猪事件中导致猪死亡的病毒是猪圆环病毒，只传染猪不传染人。流感、禽
: 流感病毒会不断变异产生新的亚型，但是与猪圆环病毒无关。
: 据悉，根据农业部兽医局和上海市农委的要求，上海市动物疾控中心4月1日对近期
: 打捞上来的黄浦江上游漂浮死猪抽检的34份留存样品，进行了禽流感通用引物检测，未
: 发现禽流感病毒。
|
i***5
发帖数: 457 | 20 你还得解释一下，为什么说猪的死因不是禽流感病毒，而是猪圆环病毒，就是为tg辩护
？难道tg统治得好，猪就得圆环病毒；要是统治得不好，就得禽流感病毒？ |
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d**********x
发帖数: 4083 | 21 哈哈，又转移话题，你就把那句“浙江没发现禽流感”解释清楚了就行了，别看见你同
类造谣被抓就坐立不安，安静点没人知道你也是傻逼五毛。
【在 i***5 的大作中提到】
: 你还得解释一下，为什么说猪的死因不是禽流感病毒，而是猪圆环病毒，就是为tg辩护
: ？难道tg统治得好，猪就得圆环病毒；要是统治得不好，就得禽流感病毒？
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b***n
发帖数: 1210 | 22 “浙江没发现禽流感”,有这句话吗?
【在 d**********x 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈，又转移话题，你就把那句“浙江没发现禽流感”解释清楚了就行了，别看见你同
: 类造谣被抓就坐立不安，安静点没人知道你也是傻逼五毛。
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d**********x
发帖数: 4083 | 23 你去读读原文。
你同
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: “浙江没发现禽流感”,有这句话吗?
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i***5
发帖数: 457 | 24 说在浙江没发现禽流感的是接受采访的兽医专家
专家就算搞错了这一点，还有其他两点证据：死猪体内有猪圆环病毒，没有发现禽流感
病毒。你光靠浙江发现了禽流感就能断定猪是因为禽流感死的？
我还可以这样说，其实是养猪场卫生条件差发生了猪瘟全死了，你这个五毛为tg辩护，
想用禽流感转移视线，撇清tg的检疫部门疏于管理导致猪瘟发生！
【在 d**********x 的大作中提到】
: 你去读读原文。
:
: 你同
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i***5
发帖数: 457 | 25 另外我刚发现，提出猪死于禽流感的楼主是烟枪，那可是个著名五毛，莫非你是烟枪的
跟班
【在 d**********x 的大作中提到】
: 你去读读原文。
:
: 你同
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d**********x
发帖数: 4083 | 26 噗又开始转移
谎言就是谎言，他传播谎言，你接着用谎言为谎言辩护，这都是跑不了的
面子上过不去？满嘴跑火车的时候想什么呢？
【在 i***5 的大作中提到】
: 说在浙江没发现禽流感的是接受采访的兽医专家
: 专家就算搞错了这一点，还有其他两点证据：死猪体内有猪圆环病毒，没有发现禽流感
: 病毒。你光靠浙江发现了禽流感就能断定猪是因为禽流感死的？
: 我还可以这样说，其实是养猪场卫生条件差发生了猪瘟全死了，你这个五毛为tg辩护，
: 想用禽流感转移视线，撇清tg的检疫部门疏于管理导致猪瘟发生！
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d**********x
发帖数: 4083 | 27 我根本就没提禽流感和死猪什么关系耶
我只是说你们小将造谣说浙江没有禽流感耶
看你现在这费劲样，我都快在办公室笑出声了
【在 i***5 的大作中提到】
: 另外我刚发现，提出猪死于禽流感的楼主是烟枪，那可是个著名五毛，莫非你是烟枪的
: 跟班
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b***n
发帖数: 1210 | 28 没看到你引号里的那句话呀
【在 d**********x 的大作中提到】
: 你去读读原文。
:
: 你同
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