f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 1 在游行酝酿之中，不少华人开始担心游行会造成“华人与黑人对立”。不由得好气又好
笑 -- 想当初，你们在这里反黑幕三，反AA，反SCA 2等等的时候，那种根本不把得罪
黑幕三放在眼里的横劲儿，我再三劝阻警告你们不得要领，最后只好放手。而现在角色
对换，我成了敢跟黑人叫阵的了。其实如果你们当初听了我的，如今事情就不会有这么
严重。在某种程度上说，这是华人只顾讨好白人主流，罔顾黑幕三弱小者利益的恶果。
你们现在需要亡羊补牢犹未未晚。
但同时，一是现在要从头做起都来不及了，二是这次黑人由于自身道德缺点有欺软怕硬
，主动进犯的责任。华人与黑人现在是短兵相接，根本想刻意避开都不可能了。今天看
到新闻，纽约州黑人州议员要求把梁警官以最重程度量刑，也就是要求判15年。看到了
？黑人实际上是我们的source of the problem，问题的根源。我们必须克制他们的进
犯。如果这次华人输大了，他们会得寸进尺的，我们会有更多的危险。
我有跟黑人斗争的丰富经验。克制他们进犯之道，一是进行正面道义谴责，二是让他们
意识到如果跟我们树敌，会使他们在与白人的斗争中遇到更多的障碍，甚至有可能我们
被白人利用来对他们不利。这是他们唯一会怕我们的。我们平时不能做，但是在受到他
们挑衅时作为反击是绝对正当并具有威慑力的手段。
我就有过这样两种对黑人斗争的经验，非常有效。先说正面的道义谴责。
梁警官事件，当然是白人体制对华人的种族歧视- 他们居然把这么爱戴忠诚于他们的华
人给卖给了黑人，可见华人对他们什么也不是！但是白人这样做直接目的是为什么？因
为黑人想要他们这样做。黑人是苦主，黑人想要看到亚裔也受到白人种族主义欺压。黑
人这样做，无论华人对他们如何不友善，都是很不道德的，因为，他们自己都是种族主
义的牺牲者，对其他少数族裔受种族主义害不仅不同情，还与种族主义者共谋，共同以
白人种族主义压迫来伤害其他少数族裔。
几天前梁警官被判罪后我去了CNN网页上有关报道下面发评论，就这样把黑人骂得狗血
淋头。
他们本来那个兴奋，到后来全都鸦雀无声了。唯一反驳我的是说华人歧视他们。一个曾
经当过兵的黑人出来跟我理论，说华人如何享受他们斗争来的民权，被我用朝鲜战争带
来了美国历史上第一次取缔种族隔离的历史事实说的哑口无言。我怎么骂的，抄下来给
你们一个榜样。 | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 2 但是，我真正使他们服气的是让他们看到了把我们推向他们的主要敌人 - 白人的危险
：我们可能被白人利用对他们的斗争不利。因为我透露了一个信息 - 刘文建警官葬礼
时本来纽约警察局几次召唤华人社区要我们组织人马去参加葬礼，而且专门划下一块地
留给华人，而华人社区本来就为刘警官之死愤愤不平，且本来就对黑人专门针对亚裔的
暴力犯罪非常反感，就准备响应NYPD号召，组织了一千人要去参加，同时华人在讨论举
标语抗议针对华人暴力。是我劝说他们不要去的因为我不愿意看到少数民族被分而克之
。现在梁警官事件使我感到我错了。。。
这是什么？黑人再傻，也知道了危险！所以他们全都沉默了。我相信会使得不少人开始
second thought。
而且华人不能只说不做。这个游行就是给他们的一个暗示。我们要打出 All lives
matter 口号，让他们感到现在他们的反种族主义警察暴力的事业又多了一个可能的威
胁。这就是震慑。他们唯一顾忌的。 | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 3 以下是我的帖子，写得匆忙，无法斟酌语言，见谅。
I'm still in shock. This is a politically motivated trial and conviction.
Every one knows that if Peter Liang were White, he would have never even
been tried. He has been made a scapegoat of the White officers. The American
society no longer even cares about the minimum appearance of social justice.
And I began to realize that I, and the Chinese community have made a mistake
a year ago, when the NYPD called upon the Chinese community a couple of
times to attend officer Wenjian Liu's funeral. Liu was shot dead with
another Latino officer by a Black. The Chinese community had organized over
1000 people to attend that funeral and hold a protest against violence on
the Chinese community for most of the Black violence had been directed at
the Asians/Chinese. But then it was me who persuaded them online not to
attend the funeral as the NYPD asked, speaking about "divide and conquer"...
finally there were only few Chinese went there to rally. That must have
disappointed the NYPD who already drew a large area for the anticipated
Chinese rally. Now look back, if the rolls were exchanged between Chinese
and Blacks, what would the Blacks do? From Peter Liang's case we can imagine
. I was wrong.
It's really sad and ironic that the Blacks, as the victims of racism
themselves, not only have no sympathy for other people of color's suffering
of racism, but also perpetrate White racism onto them. Actually this is not
the first time. I myself have the painful experience that Black judges in
Federal court, Northern California, Judge Hamilton and Armstrong, who so
vigorously defended the White racist professor and government officials that
I was suing for racism, they dismissed my civil rights cases through ways
of criminally fabricating evidences and perjuring themselves, all documented
in black and white court documents. I even made criminal complaints against
them to the FBI. Of course the FBI and DOJ all harbored them. Despite so, I
did not hold grudge against the whole Black community. Now it looks like it
's not only those Blacks in the house, but likely most of them in the US,
have turned into accomplices of White racism. It's sad and it's something
that the Chinese have to prepare themselves for. | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 4 看到了，我骂他们与白人种族主义者的共谋进犯华人，暗示我们也可能会有机会以其人
之道还以其人之身。他们不可能不怕。
至于如果他们想暴力进犯，前些日子不是有个老中夫妇枪击抢劫黑人打死打伤了他们吗
？那也是一种震慑。
对欺软怕硬的人群，逃避绝对只会招致对方的得寸进尺，陷自己于更大的困境。
这或许就是没有枪弹硝烟的1992洛杉矶大暴动黑人攻击韩国人事件的回放。我们唯一必
须做的是奋勇打回去，一锤定乾坤。 | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 5 那个当过兵的黑人出来说我只应该谴责白人
You need to stop. Black people throughougt this thread and other threads are
talking about how if he was white he wouldn't have gotten convicted. It
seems like you are falling for the divide and conquer. He did something
wrong, and he should be reprimanded in some way. You are emotional about
this case and trying to down play the systematic racism towards Blacks
because you are now starting to feel a little of it yourself. You have the
nerve to convince yourself to blame Blacks when the racist system turns its
back on you. It's all good when Black people are doing all the suffering and
fighting for all the rights that other minorities get to enjoy, all the
while thinking they are better than Blacks. The system that protected some
of the white officers did not protect him. Place your blame where it belong.
我回答：You want me to place the blame only to the White racism? Every body
knows it's White racism, but the Blacks also share the blame, since you can'
t conspire with the Whites to intentionally perpetrate White racism to other
minorities, then triumphantly and gleefully tell the minorities, see, don't
you think you are White, and then expect the minorities to only blame
Whites. And since when the other minorities would think they are White? Me,
a Chinese, have been fighting racial persecution on me for over 20 years. | w*s
发帖数: 7227 | 6 这个牛，这个赞！
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 在游行酝酿之中，不少华人开始担心游行会造成“华人与黑人对立”。不由得好气又好
: 笑 -- 想当初，你们在这里反黑幕三，反AA，反SCA 2等等的时候，那种根本不把得罪
: 黑幕三放在眼里的横劲儿，我再三劝阻警告你们不得要领，最后只好放手。而现在角色
: 对换，我成了敢跟黑人叫阵的了。其实如果你们当初听了我的，如今事情就不会有这么
: 严重。在某种程度上说，这是华人只顾讨好白人主流，罔顾黑幕三弱小者利益的恶果。
: 你们现在需要亡羊补牢犹未未晚。
: 但同时，一是现在要从头做起都来不及了，二是这次黑人由于自身道德缺点有欺软怕硬
: ，主动进犯的责任。华人与黑人现在是短兵相接，根本想刻意避开都不可能了。今天看
: 到新闻，纽约州黑人州议员要求把梁警官以最重程度量刑，也就是要求判15年。看到了
: ？黑人实际上是我们的source of the problem，问题的根源。我们必须克制他们的进
| m*****o
发帖数: 1464 | 7 华人虽然从经济上来说，算是个中产阶层，可是从政治上来说，就是个侏儒。因为在美
华人，大多数缺乏政治素养，更遑论什么政治眼光，政治远见了。所以，华人在美国的
政治地位，就是低到尘埃里。
中国人的特点，就是过分“精明”，私欲心太重，缺乏公益心，也基本上没有合作的精
神。成天歧视这个歧视那个，满嘴什么黑幕三，看不起这，看不起那。你们有什么？你
们付出过什么？一天到晚就知道窝里斗，从不知道团结才是取得尊重，取得社会地位的
一个基础。
我们本来就是minority，不团结其它的minority，你以为可以独善其身？人黑人没有说
错，我们确实是在享受着他们艰苦斗争所带来的benefit。所以，这次的游行，不但不应
该造成与黑人社团的冲突，而且应该尽量与黑人，以及其它minority达成合作。
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 在游行酝酿之中，不少华人开始担心游行会造成“华人与黑人对立”。不由得好气又好
: 笑 -- 想当初，你们在这里反黑幕三，反AA，反SCA 2等等的时候，那种根本不把得罪
: 黑幕三放在眼里的横劲儿，我再三劝阻警告你们不得要领，最后只好放手。而现在角色
: 对换，我成了敢跟黑人叫阵的了。其实如果你们当初听了我的，如今事情就不会有这么
: 严重。在某种程度上说，这是华人只顾讨好白人主流，罔顾黑幕三弱小者利益的恶果。
: 你们现在需要亡羊补牢犹未未晚。
: 但同时，一是现在要从头做起都来不及了，二是这次黑人由于自身道德缺点有欺软怕硬
: ，主动进犯的责任。华人与黑人现在是短兵相接，根本想刻意避开都不可能了。今天看
: 到新闻，纽约州黑人州议员要求把梁警官以最重程度量刑，也就是要求判15年。看到了
: ？黑人实际上是我们的source of the problem，问题的根源。我们必须克制他们的进
| f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 8 然后我又反驳她说的其他少数族裔受益于黑人民权运动说我们大家相互都受益因为中国
人也对消除种族隔离做出来贡献，民权运动不是黑人独自能够成功的：
我： "Black people are doing all the suffering and fighting for all the
rights that other minorities get to enjoy"? The victory of the Civil Rights
Movement was due to the rise of all people of color around the global. To be
more specific, it was the Korean War that the Chinese shaded blood for,
force the US government to abolish the racial segregation in US army. That
was the first time in US history, 10 years before your civil rights movement
. We all benefited from each other's struggle, don't take all the credit and
always pose like we other minorities owe you. I will post the story about
the Korean War and segregation here that I saw somewhere on the FB. What do
you think you alone can just march and then win over the Whites? You can't
even win over Ferguson.
黑人不相信我说的朝鲜战争一事：I said thank you about the Army. I served in
the Army for many years, and the desegregation during that time most likely
had more to do with a demand for manpower.
我就把故事简单讲了一遍，把黑人连的照片都贴出来了：the desegregation during
that time most likely had more to do with a demand for manpower? No. The US
army had had numerous wars before and the lack of man power was never dealt
with in way of desegregation. It was all because the Chinese army defeated
the Black unites, the Blacks could no longer fight like before in the
previous wars, they began to run away from the field. Then a whole large
field unite, 123 people, together surrendered themselves to the Chinese army
. The Chinese army surrounded them but did not attack, the Blacks tried to
break out but could not. Chinese just asked them to surrender, saying they
are being used by the White imperialists, we will treat you equally like
White soldiers. , then they surrendered. After that a US army general
immediately requested desegregation in whole US army, got approved by DOD,
and two months later from that battle, the whole US army desegregated. This
is what I can remember, I need to go to find that post I saw on Chinese
Internet, will post it here. They even have the photos of those Black
soldiers who surrendered. Very interesting story.
This was an unintended help on the Chinese side, but it did make the
desegregation happen in US for the first time. The US feared really not much
about just some marches, they feared some powers that can war with them. So
just like you said, the civil rights movement "has benefitted them for sure
" (the other minorities), the Korean war has also benefited the Blacks too.
Let me try to post the Black soldiers' photo here. For that battle, the
Chinese casualty:1, the Blacks: 23, as I remember. http://blogfile.ifeng.com/.../908583...
Since that battle, the US army could no longer trust the Blacks to fight on
their own alone, and they could not exempt the Blacks from fighting the war,
like that US general asked before, because Blacks had a big population. So
the only solution was to desegregation. | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 9 重贴旧文。另外一次，我就直接利用了黑白斗争：
我前面发文倡议大家要支持黑人反种族歧视，但是并不意味着就是倡议不要与黑人斗争
。正如我所说的，要边支持边斗争。两回事。但是怎样把两者协调统一起来呢？
华人怎么样才能有效与他们斗争呢？第一自己要敢于暴力反制，比如不久前有个华人餐
馆老板把持枪抢劫的黑人一枪打死，不负刑责。这样的事多发生几次他们就怕了。老莫
就是这样最终使得黑人望而止步不敢太放肆的。第二必须行动起来制止美加司法系统对
黑人侵犯华人的纵容，这个华人的路还长以后再说。第三，最容易做到的就是要用政治
手段直接对黑人做启蒙和警示让他们认识到他们欺负华人的后果。这最后一条每个人都
可以做而且我成功了。我的经验证明如果大家都做就会有成效。
我与黑人的第一次较量是跟两个北加州联邦法庭的黑人法官，Hamilton 和Armstrong.
我去联邦法庭控告美国政府和一个加大伯克利的一个白人教授James Cahill，告他们与
加拿大政府共谋迫害我。（过去在这里贴过我的故事的大概）。这时候第一个法官就是
Armstrong，知道她和她的助手都是黑人，我充满希望。结果却被撤案了。大概2007我
又新开了一个案子，又来了一个黑人法官Hamilton，我坚决反对但是没办法。果然，
2008这两个黑人法官和他们的助手还加上一个加州助理检察长，一个女华人叫Kay Yu,
共谋以程序疏忽的名义撤销了我的案子。这个所谓疏忽完全这两个黑人法官和黑人助手
亲自出手篡改法庭纪律和法庭文件等等制造出来的。证据确凿我就到FBI去告他们结果
当然被拒绝了。我极为愤怒，到网上去发帖大骂他们但是收效很小，因为帖子都被和谐
了。
20097月，发生了哈佛大学黑人教授Gates被白人警察非法逮捕的事，奥巴马几天之后
就出来批评白人警察种族歧视了，结果被白人主流和媒体反攻，最后不得不向警察道歉
还请在白宫喝酒。这件事在世界上都广为报道。
这时候我立刻行动起来，首先找到了那些不被删贴的地方比如油管上的Russia Today，
那是美国西方媒体之外最大的新闻媒体，在油管上是全世界阅读量最大的。等等。然后
我就使劲发评论了，几乎每一个有关报道下面都有我的评论。我首先写到，白人警察这
的确是种族歧视，但是，While I am most sympathetic for Professor Gates, I do
think that the Black elits got what they deserve. 大大方方地说虽然我同情他们
但是认为他们活该。然后说这些黑人精英不是心甘情愿地替白人出头欺压我这样的华人
，简直比白人还白，居然能够对我这样卑鄙下流的犯罪，这大概才是白人要提拔黑人上
去的原因吧？不就是为了让你们替他们干最卑鄙下流的勾当，这样他们既达到了目的，
又没有脏手？以这样的方式爬上去，不让人羡慕反而让人鄙视，包括被白人自己鄙视。
然后把这两个黑人法官的犯法勾当都陈述出来。
各色人种都默默地没有反应。然后有黑人开始同情我说这些都是house nigger, 黑皮白
心的，黑人社区也恨他们。一个黑人显然是与法律有关的出来说，你说的都是你一面之
词，把你的案子号码给我，我去查，我就在奥克兰。我立马把案子号码都贴出来了。自
此以后他就再也没有说过话，显然是发现我说的都是真实的。大多数黑人不说话因为他
们的原则就是只要是自己人，再错都不说错。宁可沉默。
然后我就到那些黑人网站上去贴，还到奥巴马网站上去贴，当然都很快就被删除了。但
是事情很快就被黑人社区知道了而且被视为大尴尬大问题。为什么呢，因为接下来我去
那个黑人教授的网页上贴喊活该的时候，一摁那个submit键，整个网页就全blank了，
上面一行大字：“You are not authorized to access this page”. 我错愕之下，笑
起来了。怎么就事先做好准备不许我张贴我的活该贴了呢？可见黑人教授已经知道我要
来喊活该了，我要贴出的不是种族歧视仇恨贴，而是更加让黑人尴尬更害怕的东西。然
后我又在Jessi Jackson还是Sharpton的网站上遇到同样的事。所以我知道我的抗议已
经被黑人社区广为知晓了，他们很害怕。
有什么结果呢？对我当然已经太晚，案子已经被黑人撤销了。但是，就在那之后不久，
同一个去北加州联邦法庭告状的华人却在那个法庭当头Chief Judge的黑人法官手中赢
了。当时这个华人已经在此法院被撤销过不止一个案子，突然峰回路转，没有像一般华
人告状一样在法官手里就被撤销，根本到不了陪审团。可是他却被允许了陪审团而且赢
了。这个黑人法官对华人做的就很奇怪。这个华人之前也曾经发文抱怨这个法庭的另外
一个黑人法官把他的案子无理撤销了。
考虑到时间上跟我对黑人斗争的承接联系，考虑到黑人对我的抗议的害怕，我相信是我
对黑人法官的斗争起到作用了，这是那些黑人精英在对华人示好，以挽回族裔关系。要
知道黑人跟华人完全不同的地方就是，他们每个人绝对忠诚地维护他们族裔的利益，甚
至可以牺牲他们自己个人的利益。比如奥巴马，第一次为了黑人教授被迫道歉，第二次
为了黑人催旺还照样站出来说话，根本不顾自己可能会丢失颜面。催旺案，那个管案子
的白人警官说就是他的警察局里都有几个officer对他施加压力要他起诉Zimmerman。所
以我相信，黑人意在对华人道歉示好。 |
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