p*****n
发帖数: 758 | 1 我看了下本版精华区好像还没建立起来，所以只能发贴问问。
我之前没有上雪山，或者multiday back-packing hiking的经历，只有day hiking的经
历。
如果我现在想训练到能跟向导上Mt Rainier这种层次的山，应该怎么准备起？从身体到
登山知识到装备希望大家能讲讲，或者是哪里有比较好的网络资源能详细介绍一下
hiking如何从入门到提高
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 2 如果你的目标就是上rainier到此一游, 去参加RMI的program: http://www.rmiguides.com/
交钱,别人带你上rainier, 你自己需要的就是要有充足的体力, RMI带你上rainier的时
候会给你一天的基本训练.
如果你想成为一名climber, 而不是靠着guide company到某个山头到此一游,成为今后
吹嘘的资本, 那就踏踏实实的去上mountaineering课程
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我看了下本版精华区好像还没建立起来，所以只能发贴问问。
: 我之前没有上雪山，或者multiday back-packing hiking的经历，只有day hiking的经
: 历。
: 如果我现在想训练到能跟向导上Mt Rainier这种层次的山，应该怎么准备起？从身体到
: 登山知识到装备希望大家能讲讲，或者是哪里有比较好的网络资源能详细介绍一下
: hiking如何从入门到提高
: 谢谢大家。
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 3 if it's just something you need to check off from your 100-things-to-do-
before-you-die list, go with RMI. all you need is physical strength. train
yourself in the gym for half a year, test yourself by hiking up Mt Si with a
35 pound pack in 2 hours, and you are good to go. in the actual climbing,
you don't do much other than blindly following.
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我看了下本版精华区好像还没建立起来，所以只能发贴问问。
: 我之前没有上雪山，或者multiday back-packing hiking的经历，只有day hiking的经
: 历。
: 如果我现在想训练到能跟向导上Mt Rainier这种层次的山，应该怎么准备起？从身体到
: 登山知识到装备希望大家能讲讲，或者是哪里有比较好的网络资源能详细介绍一下
: hiking如何从入门到提高
: 谢谢大家。
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s***y
发帖数: 7034 | 4 Mt Si 的长度／gain是？
a
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: if it's just something you need to check off from your 100-things-to-do-
: before-you-die list, go with RMI. all you need is physical strength. train
: yourself in the gym for half a year, test yourself by hiking up Mt Si with a
: 35 pound pack in 2 hours, and you are good to go. in the actual climbing,
: you don't do much other than blindly following.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 5 4 miles, 3200 ft. It's a typical, if not the only one, benchmark for
climbers in Seattle area.
【在 s***y 的大作中提到】
: Mt Si 的长度／gain是？
:
: a
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 6 3.75 mile / 3400 ft
sigh, 想起来今年好像就去过Si两次。
【在 s***y 的大作中提到】
: Mt Si 的长度／gain是？
:
: a
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s***y
发帖数: 7034 | 7 同一天去的？
【在 y*****y 的大作中提到】
: 3.75 mile / 3400 ft
: sigh, 想起来今年好像就去过Si两次。
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 8 it's a lot more than 2400
【在 y*****y 的大作中提到】
: 3.75 mile / 3400 ft
: sigh, 想起来今年好像就去过Si两次。
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 9 按错键了,3400
去了两次，爬了三趟
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: it's a lot more than 2400
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p*****n
发帖数: 758 | 10 我当然希望能是后者
哪里能找到mountaineering课程呢？
我住在西雅图
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 如果你的目标就是上rainier到此一游, 去参加RMI的program: http://www.rmiguides.com/
: 交钱,别人带你上rainier, 你自己需要的就是要有充足的体力, RMI带你上rainier的时
: 候会给你一天的基本训练.
: 如果你想成为一名climber, 而不是靠着guide company到某个山头到此一游,成为今后
: 吹嘘的资本, 那就踏踏实实的去上mountaineering课程
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 11 http://www.mountaineers.org/
这个版上不下10个人在那里上(过)课
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我当然希望能是后者
: 哪里能找到mountaineering课程呢？
: 我住在西雅图
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 12 boealps and mountaineers. be warned though: climbing is a long time
committment and it's addictive.
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我当然希望能是后者
: 哪里能找到mountaineering课程呢？
: 我住在西雅图
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 13 有10个吗？
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.mountaineers.org/
: 这个版上不下10个人在那里上(过)课
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 14 9个?
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 有10个吗？
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 15 lemme count, me and LD, tigershead, buzzy, yccyccy, zd, K, ethen. belle
doesn't really come to this board so she doesn't count. who else? robot is
with boealps
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 9个?
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 16 offline
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: lemme count, me and LD, tigershead, buzzy, yccyccy, zd, K, ethen. belle
: doesn't really come to this board so she doesn't count. who else? robot is
: with boealps
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 17 哦，对
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: offline
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s***y
发帖数: 7034 | 18 offline
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: lemme count, me and LD, tigershead, buzzy, yccyccy, zd, K, ethen. belle
: doesn't really come to this board so she doesn't count. who else? robot is
: with boealps
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 19 offline/fatdude
grace appeared here once, doesn't count though
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: lemme count, me and LD, tigershead, buzzy, yccyccy, zd, K, ethen. belle
: doesn't really come to this board so she doesn't count. who else? robot is
: with boealps
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 20 peng
【在 s***y 的大作中提到】
: offline
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 21 grace就来冒了个泡而已。这家伙现在估计爽的很
【在 y*****y 的大作中提到】
: offline/fatdude
: grace appeared here once, doesn't count though
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 22 robot will tell you avoid boealps |
y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 23 What you can do now:
1. Go to mountaineers website to join to the club, pay attention to the
basic climbing class registration date. When it is open (October?),
register for 2010 class.
http://www.mountaineers.org/
2.Attend hiking activities organized in seattle board. You can contact
johney, they typically go out every weekend. Or you can do your own regular
training on Mt.Si or Cable Line in Tiger Mountain.
3.If interested, join Vertical World for some gym climbing, it is very
helpful for y
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我当然希望能是后者
: 哪里能找到mountaineering课程呢？
: 我住在西雅图
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o*****e
发帖数: 379 | 24 A message from forum...
I've taken the Mountaineers class (10yrs ago) and have helped teach the WAC
class. Here's my thoughts on both of them:
Mountaineers:
* much longer class
* more open weekends between fieldtrips/flexible scheduling
* much larger class (100-200 students?)
* more expensive (~$200?)
* accepts most anybody
* more fields trips means more time spent on some skills, less self-study
needed
* follows 'Freedom of the Hills' very closely
WAC:
* shorter class (10wks)
* almost
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我当然希望能是后者
: 哪里能找到mountaineering课程呢？
: 我住在西雅图
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 25 Basically I do not agree with any of the sentence quoted below.
Mountaineers:
* much larger class (100-200 students?)
Because of the size of the Mountaineers they have a more bureaucratic
process/experience to the whole club, and especially the climbing class.
After finishing the lectures/fieldtrips you have to do 3 official climbs to
'graduate', and signing up for those climbs is very difficult - basically
wake at 6am, put your phone on redial for the automated climb registration
system
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 26 This guy needs to update his knowledge. Lots of the info is inaccurate
anymore. Well, the beaurocracy is true to some extent. But name an
organization with no beaurocracy.
WAC
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】
: A message from forum...
:
: I've taken the Mountaineers class (10yrs ago) and have helped teach the WAC
: class. Here's my thoughts on both of them:
: Mountaineers:
: * much longer class
: * more open weekends between fieldtrips/flexible scheduling
: * much larger class (100-200 students?)
: * more expensive (~$200?)
: * accepts most anybody
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 27 However, I strongly agree with the fitness requirement part though. Everette
branch has that kind of requirement. Sadly Seattle doesn't. That contribute
to the fact that many people sign up climbs that they are not physically
capable of. If I were to make the rules, I would require everyone being able
to go up Mt Si with a 30 pound pack in 2 hours. (That's what Everette
branch is doing). This is a very benign criterion
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: This guy needs to update his knowledge. Lots of the info is inaccurate
: anymore. Well, the beaurocracy is true to some extent. But name an
: organization with no beaurocracy.
:
: WAC
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f*****e
发帖数: 57 | 28 For me, it's good to have a weak climber in the group. First, we will have
a more comfortable pace. Second, it won't be me dragging the whole group
down.
Everette
contribute
able
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: However, I strongly agree with the fitness requirement part though. Everette
: branch has that kind of requirement. Sadly Seattle doesn't. That contribute
: to the fact that many people sign up climbs that they are not physically
: capable of. If I were to make the rules, I would require everyone being able
: to go up Mt Si with a 30 pound pack in 2 hours. (That's what Everette
: branch is doing). This is a very benign criterion
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 29 For me, it's the opposite. I want all my partners to be strong. When
something does happen, I don't want anyone to be a liability. You should
always be climbing at a comfortable pace anyway. Pace control is a big part
of leading a climb. Just because you are strong doesn't mean you have to go
at a pace that everyone else is struggling.
have
【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: For me, it's good to have a weak climber in the group. First, we will have
: a more comfortable pace. Second, it won't be me dragging the whole group
: down.
:
: Everette
: contribute
: able
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f*****e
发帖数: 57 | 30 I second that.
昨天爬完 South Early Winter Spire，回家路上还跟 yc 讨论， 究竟值不值得啊：
前一天晚上 car camping, 然后当天很晚才能回到家， 人是又困又累。
但是我知道过几天又开始心痒痒到准备下一个 climb 了。
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: boealps and mountaineers. be warned though: climbing is a long time
: committment and it's addictive.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 31 whenever I am struggling on a climb, I always ask myself why the hell am I
doing this and I can't find an answer. But the joy of a summit beats it all.
【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: I second that.
: 昨天爬完 South Early Winter Spire，回家路上还跟 yc 讨论， 究竟值不值得啊：
: 前一天晚上 car camping, 然后当天很晚才能回到家， 人是又困又累。
: 但是我知道过几天又开始心痒痒到准备下一个 climb 了。
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 32 hehe, 这么快就恢复过来了？
Congratulations on getting in the Rainer climb!
【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: I second that.
: 昨天爬完 South Early Winter Spire，回家路上还跟 yc 讨论， 究竟值不值得啊：
: 前一天晚上 car camping, 然后当天很晚才能回到家， 人是又困又累。
: 但是我知道过几天又开始心痒痒到准备下一个 climb 了。
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 33 Cebe's climb?
【在 y*****y 的大作中提到】
: hehe, 这么快就恢复过来了？
: Congratulations on getting in the Rainer climb!
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 34 你不也搞了一个rainier climb么? 呵呵
【在 y*****y 的大作中提到】
: hehe, 这么快就恢复过来了？
: Congratulations on getting in the Rainer climb!
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p**********t
发帖数: 2636 | 35 每次PNW的人开始BSO我就有把这个版踢出收藏夹的念头
all.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: whenever I am struggling on a climb, I always ask myself why the hell am I
: doing this and I can't find an answer. But the joy of a summit beats it all.
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 36 you are not the first one, nor the last one
I heard tons of ppl thinking the same way, but they always go back to climb
more
lol
all.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: whenever I am struggling on a climb, I always ask myself why the hell am I
: doing this and I can't find an answer. But the joy of a summit beats it all.
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 37 踢
【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】
: 每次PNW的人开始BSO我就有把这个版踢出收藏夹的念头
:
: all.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 38 that can be said about any kind of addiction, I guess
climb
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: you are not the first one, nor the last one
: I heard tons of ppl thinking the same way, but they always go back to climb
: more
: lol
:
: all.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 39 patpat
【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】
: 每次PNW的人开始BSO我就有把这个版踢出收藏夹的念头
:
: all.
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f*****e
发帖数: 57 | 40 My climb's leader is Jack Lambert. It's a 3 day climb, good for not-so-
strong climber like me.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: Cebe's climb?
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 41 Oh, that climb, hehe. There is a long waitlist for that one. It has been
postponed since early April. Say hello to Jack and Grace for me.
【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: My climb's leader is Jack Lambert. It's a 3 day climb, good for not-so-
: strong climber like me.
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y*****y
发帖数: 3433 | 42 不是，是Jack和Grace带的那个。
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: Cebe's climb?
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f*****e
发帖数: 57 | 43 I will.
I was waiting list #3 when I signed up, and moved up to #1 a few weeks ago.
I know I should be able to get in, as I just need one more cancellation.
Finally I got it yesterday. LOL.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: Oh, that climb, hehe. There is a long waitlist for that one. It has been
: postponed since early April. Say hello to Jack and Grace for me.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 44 lol, what did you do to that poor guy?
.
【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: I will.
: I was waiting list #3 when I signed up, and moved up to #1 a few weeks ago.
: I know I should be able to get in, as I just need one more cancellation.
: Finally I got it yesterday. LOL.
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 45 巴豆?
ago
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: lol, what did you do to that poor guy?
:
: .
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