a****0
发帖数: 509 | | S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 2 新手的话，boot 可以买个特价intermediate的级别的，ski 可以买个便宜的。
【在 a****0 的大作中提到】
: 价格相差很大.应该买什么价位.比如靴子有40多的,有200多的,板子有200多,500多的.
: 不想花冤枉钱.
: http://www.evo.com/outlet-shop/ski.aspx#/outlet-shop/ski/boots.
: http://www.evo.com/outlet-shop/ski.aspx#/outlet-shop/ski/packag
| a****0
发帖数: 509 | 3 这样说是因为新手不需要好的板子,还是降低成本以免兴趣不持续浪费?
你说的级别是在evo的级别吗.可是我看到在expert级别也有很便宜的板子,跟入门级的差
不多.所以很迷惑.
贵和便宜的区别主要在哪里?品牌,耐用,好用,功能?
【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 新手的话，boot 可以买个特价intermediate的级别的，ski 可以买个便宜的。
| g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 4 昨天正好去店里问过这个问题，店员的解释是：
beginner -> intermediate -> advanced -> expert
板子越来越硬，control更好，用的材料和工艺技术都更高级，用的时间更长，当然更
贵。但是高级的对新手并不好，对你的错误容忍度比较低，新手会觉得更难控制。
新手的板子比较软，速度也慢一些。
牌子据说差别不是很大。
boots必须买合适的，我不知道这个怎么在网上买，因为要根据你的脚来选。
的差
【在 a****0 的大作中提到】
: 这样说是因为新手不需要好的板子,还是降低成本以免兴趣不持续浪费?
: 你说的级别是在evo的级别吗.可是我看到在expert级别也有很便宜的板子,跟入门级的差
: 不多.所以很迷惑.
: 贵和便宜的区别主要在哪里?品牌,耐用,好用,功能?
| s******y
发帖数: 435 | 5 建议楼主google一下how to choose skis，所谓的beginner和expert不单单在板子的材
质上有差别，更主要是在length，三围，转弯半径，适合风格等方面。
的差
【在 a****0 的大作中提到】
: 这样说是因为新手不需要好的板子,还是降低成本以免兴趣不持续浪费?
: 你说的级别是在evo的级别吗.可是我看到在expert级别也有很便宜的板子,跟入门级的差
: 不多.所以很迷惑.
: 贵和便宜的区别主要在哪里?品牌,耐用,好用,功能?
| Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 6 You'll know the difference in skis as you gain more experience and discover
what kind of skiing you like to do. A safe place to start is look at the
category of skis known as 'all-mountain' skis.
For most beginner to advanced intermediates:
As a general rule, ski length should be about to your chin.
Ski width I would go with an all-mountain set up width of about 80mm(East
Coast), or 90mm(West Coast). This set up should last you quite a few years
- by then your skis will more than likely be pretty beat up, or you would
have discovered more about your style and what kind of terrain you enjoy,
and have some idea what kind of skis you need.
There are other factors like cambers, rockers, etc - don't worry about them
on your first pair - save the money on your boots instead :)
Boots is a bit more important than skis. Since like most of us, you are not
racing - the best thing to do is to get a pair that is the most comfortable
. For that you MUST try them out in person. There is a thing called flex
index - as a general rule, the higher that number, the stiffer the boot, the
better it is to transfer power to your skis, and the less comfortable it is.
Same thing apply to skis as to boots - for your first pair, your foremost
concern is comfort. Put both boots on (do not just put on 1), walk around,
stand around for a while (not 30 seconds - maybe walk around the store for a
while...) Feel how free your heel is (you should not be able to move your
heels very much), test to see if any part of your feet has circulation cut
off - if the boot isn't comfortable for 10 minutes - imagine standing in
them for the WHOLE DAY while in freezing temperature! | a****0
发帖数: 509 | 7 Thanks a lot for the detailed info,which is really helpful!
discover
years
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: You'll know the difference in skis as you gain more experience and discover
: what kind of skiing you like to do. A safe place to start is look at the
: category of skis known as 'all-mountain' skis.
: For most beginner to advanced intermediates:
: As a general rule, ski length should be about to your chin.
: Ski width I would go with an all-mountain set up width of about 80mm(East
: Coast), or 90mm(West Coast). This set up should last you quite a few years
: - by then your skis will more than likely be pretty beat up, or you would
: have discovered more about your style and what kind of terrain you enjoy,
: and have some idea what kind of skis you need.
| z******n
发帖数: 336 | 8 不错很详细，买boots最麻烦，一定要试，就一定要去店里，店里一般也最贵
不厚道就是去店里试，网上买，至少便宜个50刀吧
discover
years
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: You'll know the difference in skis as you gain more experience and discover
: what kind of skiing you like to do. A safe place to start is look at the
: category of skis known as 'all-mountain' skis.
: For most beginner to advanced intermediates:
: As a general rule, ski length should be about to your chin.
: Ski width I would go with an all-mountain set up width of about 80mm(East
: Coast), or 90mm(West Coast). This set up should last you quite a few years
: - by then your skis will more than likely be pretty beat up, or you would
: have discovered more about your style and what kind of terrain you enjoy,
: and have some idea what kind of skis you need.
| m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 9 wrong, boot fitting is worth at least $50.
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: 不错很详细，买boots最麻烦，一定要试，就一定要去店里，店里一般也最贵
: 不厚道就是去店里试，网上买，至少便宜个50刀吧
:
: discover
: years
| k***z
发帖数: 3522 | 10 Zan!!
discover
years
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: You'll know the difference in skis as you gain more experience and discover
: what kind of skiing you like to do. A safe place to start is look at the
: category of skis known as 'all-mountain' skis.
: For most beginner to advanced intermediates:
: As a general rule, ski length should be about to your chin.
: Ski width I would go with an all-mountain set up width of about 80mm(East
: Coast), or 90mm(West Coast). This set up should last you quite a few years
: - by then your skis will more than likely be pretty beat up, or you would
: have discovered more about your style and what kind of terrain you enjoy,
: and have some idea what kind of skis you need.
| | | z******n
发帖数: 336 | 11 wrong， according to your assumption, then at least $100 is saved
我不说店里先试赚50刀，然后再网上买省50刀，不推荐直接网上买
【在 m***h 的大作中提到】
: wrong, boot fitting is worth at least $50.
| m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 12 boot fitting可不是试那么简单
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: wrong， according to your assumption, then at least $100 is saved
: 我不说店里先试赚50刀，然后再网上买省50刀，不推荐直接网上买
| s********y
发帖数: 660 | | Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 14 Regarding boot fitting - unless the price differential is very great,
normally I would purchase from the store anyway, for several reasons:
1) Boot fitting - if you go to a ski shop, boot fitting isn't just measure
the dimension of your feet and let you put on a pair and walk around. Boot
fitting is also about customization - if for example, you really like a
particular set of boots but are not happy with how the liners feel or fit,
an experienced boot fitter can do a lot to alleviate pressure points and gap
wiggle rooms by patching up the boot liner. All that service is free, and
at least in my case, I can come back to the store at any time to make
adjustments.
2) Price. While most stores can't match *truly* bottom 80% sale outlet
price, for most boots at least my local store price is fairly competitive -
within $50 or so. They know that people shop around, and while they will
charge a premium for the value-added service, it shouldn't be something
outrageous.
3) Karma... lol OK this is a weird one - I like to build a good
relationship with the locally-owned stores because 1) they treat you nice
and would often give you preferential treatment on some goodies. Plus - it'
s nice to support your local small business. Like I said, karma. hehe
Of course if the price difference is simply huge, then I would buy online
and take it to the store to have it properly fitted. | g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 15 赞最后一点，如果你想享受好的服务，你也有义务do something to support them!
measure
Boot
gap
and
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: Regarding boot fitting - unless the price differential is very great,
: normally I would purchase from the store anyway, for several reasons:
: 1) Boot fitting - if you go to a ski shop, boot fitting isn't just measure
: the dimension of your feet and let you put on a pair and walk around. Boot
: fitting is also about customization - if for example, you really like a
: particular set of boots but are not happy with how the liners feel or fit,
: an experienced boot fitter can do a lot to alleviate pressure points and gap
: wiggle rooms by patching up the boot liner. All that service is free, and
: at least in my case, I can come back to the store at any time to make
: adjustments.
| z******n
发帖数: 336 | 16 当然如果有local店能提供customer fitting的服务那去local好得多，我说的local不
是说滑雪地区，大部分地区根本没有真的ski的店，就是些一般体育用品店而已，没有
什么fitting的服务了
measure
Boot
gap
and
【在 Y**s 的大作中提到】
: Regarding boot fitting - unless the price differential is very great,
: normally I would purchase from the store anyway, for several reasons:
: 1) Boot fitting - if you go to a ski shop, boot fitting isn't just measure
: the dimension of your feet and let you put on a pair and walk around. Boot
: fitting is also about customization - if for example, you really like a
: particular set of boots but are not happy with how the liners feel or fit,
: an experienced boot fitter can do a lot to alleviate pressure points and gap
: wiggle rooms by patching up the boot liner. All that service is free, and
: at least in my case, I can come back to the store at any time to make
: adjustments.
| Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 17 Right, I don't mean to go into for example a Sports Authority and expect the
16yr old part-time high school student worker to provide good custom
service. I'm in Ohio and the state is literally one giant corn field. But
even here there are a few local ski/board shops (in summer they sell runner'
s gear + patio furniture LOL).
Honestly, you can probably patch up your own boots too - stuff in more
insulation, shave off part of the liner if you feel a pressure point, etc.
If you are lazy like me, might as well have someone else do it and if they
screw up, I got someone to blame besides myself... haha
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: 当然如果有local店能提供customer fitting的服务那去local好得多，我说的local不
: 是说滑雪地区，大部分地区根本没有真的ski的店，就是些一般体育用品店而已，没有
: 什么fitting的服务了
:
: measure
: Boot
: gap
: and
| d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 18 unless you buy your boots from a specialty store, you are better off to get
a pair off the internet (dirty cheap) and pay another 100 to the boots
fitter. The catch is that most of the good boots fitters are with the
specialty shops, and most of the time they refuse to do a good job when you
bring outside boots :D
as yoss said, Karma is some serious business you shouldn't mess with, you
will get more than just the bucks | d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 19 but skis, who cares, just get them cheap from whoever wherever | r********7
发帖数: 229 | 20 赞一个热心牛人Yoss，码了这么多字。我完全同意yoss的建议。
我自己买过2双boots，4副ski,关于买鞋补充下。
鞋的size，就是长度，很重要。到店里去量一下知道大小。试了舒服后最好是再要一双
小一号的再试试。我在店里量的是9.5（我平时走路穿10号鞋），买了个9.5的穿了10次
左右发现有点大。回店里换了个人又量了一次还是9.5。我坚持要了双8.5的试试，正好
。毅然在网上买了双8.5的然后再也不去那个店买东西了。
提醒下鞋的宽度也很重要。我第一双104mm,舒服是舒服，但是太肥了。现在用的第二双
98mm，很合脚。
友情提醒下去店里试温度比外面滑雪场上高很多，鞋子在店里会比在滑雪时感觉大些，
软些。我一次去店里试flex 120的technica dragon 120，觉得太软了。其实在雪场上
应该是很硬的。 | | | a****0
发帖数: 509 | 21 才知道买滑雪靴这么多讲究。多谢各位大侠特别是YOSS! | m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 22 Most big cities has one or two ski shops.
Or go to a ski shop nearby the resort you often ski.
【在 z******n 的大作中提到】
: 当然如果有local店能提供customer fitting的服务那去local好得多，我说的local不
: 是说滑雪地区，大部分地区根本没有真的ski的店，就是些一般体育用品店而已，没有
: 什么fitting的服务了
:
: measure
: Boot
: gap
: and
| a****0
发帖数: 509 | 23 再问各位大侠, footbed是个什么东西？需要购买吗？好像光这个就100多。 | n**********i
发帖数: 154 | 24 贴一个链接：15 Best Bootfitters
http://www.skinet.com/ski/galleries/15-best-bootfitters
对于高手们或者对靴子要求较高的同学们会有用。
东海岸最好的有Mt Snow Bootfitters, Green Mountain Orthotic Lab in Stratton | d*********e
发帖数: 3835 | 25 if you don't have to wear arch support in daily life, you don't have to have
it.
Nonetheless, it is going to make your feet feel so much better. If you get
this, you might as well get your boots custom fitted, another 100-200 bucks
【在 a****0 的大作中提到】
: 再问各位大侠, footbed是个什么东西？需要购买吗？好像光这个就100多。
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