l********g
发帖数: 677 | 1 TW 的几款 Wilson 的拍子正打折。想入一款 Wilson Six.One 95 BLX (16x18) 或者
Wilson Six.One 95 BLX (16x20)。请大牛们评价一下这款拍子怎么样？
目前用 Babolat Pure Storm Tour GT (16x20)。好久没有用过 Wilson 的拍子了，想
尝尝鲜。
先谢过了！ |
c****3
发帖数: 189 | 2 Wilson BLX 95 16X18 "BAD" - "Too much spin, no enough control".
Wilson BLX 95 18X20 "BAD" - "No spin, cannot carry the short ball over the
net". |
s*******t
发帖数: 2896 | 3 16x19(或者18)打不了placement是真的有体会。任何时候总得旋着打，否则没速度，没
角度，没成功率，正在习惯中。
18x20上旋没那么不堪，我就爱用18x20（或者19)搞上旋。
每球必上旋，或者有此意愿的话，那就16x18吧。
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: Wilson BLX 95 16X18 "BAD" - "Too much spin, no enough control".
: Wilson BLX 95 18X20 "BAD" - "No spin, cannot carry the short ball over the
: net".
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 4 Too much spin is good, but no enough control is really bad! Regarding the
control, wondering how much difference comparing to Babolat Pure Storm Tour
GT?
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: Wilson BLX 95 16X18 "BAD" - "Too much spin, no enough control".
: Wilson BLX 95 18X20 "BAD" - "No spin, cannot carry the short ball over the
: net".
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 5 我手头所有的拍子都是 16x20。想入一只16x18的。不过，如果 control 太差的话，那
就算了。
【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: 16x19(或者18)打不了placement是真的有体会。任何时候总得旋着打，否则没速度，没
: 角度，没成功率，正在习惯中。
: 18x20上旋没那么不堪，我就爱用18x20（或者19)搞上旋。
: 每球必上旋，或者有此意愿的话，那就16x18吧。
|
c****3
发帖数: 189 | 6 16X18 打起来飘. 18X20 无力, 且无SPIN. PURE STORM TOUR 无力但有SPIN. 当然后
者好. |
s*******t
发帖数: 2896 | 7 晕，到底18x20还是16x20啊？
BLX Six.One 95我就看到18x20和16x18两种啊。怎么搞出16x20来？ |
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 8 听说，PURE STORM TOUR 的 power 比 PURE STORM TOUR GT要差一点，不过我自己没
有比较过。 我用的 GT 感觉也还好。在我用过的所有拍子中，综合起来，这是最顺手
的一款了。
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: 16X18 打起来飘. 18X20 无力, 且无SPIN. PURE STORM TOUR 无力但有SPIN. 当然后
: 者好.
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 9 我其它的所有拍子是16x20。 BLX Six.One 95 是16x18 和 18x20。
【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: 晕，到底18x20还是16x20啊？
: BLX Six.One 95我就看到18x20和16x18两种啊。怎么搞出16x20来？
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 10 What level are you? And what's your style. I use 6.1 18x20. Probably will
never switch in the yearsto come. And I probably have one of most topspin
fh on the board
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: TW 的几款 Wilson 的拍子正打折。想入一款 Wilson Six.One 95 BLX (16x18) 或者
: Wilson Six.One 95 BLX (16x20)。请大牛们评价一下这款拍子怎么样？
: 目前用 Babolat Pure Storm Tour GT (16x20)。好久没有用过 Wilson 的拍子了，想
: 尝尝鲜。
: 先谢过了！
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a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 11 wilson 6.1 16x18 and 18x20 也算w家主打的拍子，是w家pro里面用的最多的。 16x18
我用作备拍，控制会差一点，但也不是不能用，因为95拍面和，中间密外围疏的线的分
布 。
我推荐wilson ps 95 16x19 + 配重
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 我手头所有的拍子都是 16x20。想入一只16x18的。不过，如果 control 太差的话，那
: 就算了。
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d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 12 你的不是什么blx95吗，那个轻软的。他说的6.1 95是硬重的。。。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: What level are you? And what's your style. I use 6.1 18x20. Probably will
: never switch in the yearsto come. And I probably have one of most topspin
: fh on the board
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 13 Ken是不是有一个你可以试? 这个跟风格和发展目标有关，你的目标是想球速快点的话
，线疏点好，目标是控制磨球，线密点好。跟上不上旋有关系但是不绝对
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: TW 的几款 Wilson 的拍子正打折。想入一款 Wilson Six.One 95 BLX (16x18) 或者
: Wilson Six.One 95 BLX (16x20)。请大牛们评价一下这款拍子怎么样？
: 目前用 Babolat Pure Storm Tour GT (16x20)。好久没有用过 Wilson 的拍子了，想
: 尝尝鲜。
: 先谢过了！
|
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 14 I been using 6.1 18x20 since late July or August. Planning to get the new
ones. I was using the ps 95 but I added weight to have it at around 12.1 oz
at the time. I can hit the ball harder with 6.1 thsn ps
【在 d******x 的大作中提到】
: 你的不是什么blx95吗，那个轻软的。他说的6.1 95是硬重的。。。
|
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 15 6.1 18x20 is not easy to use at first. Strongly recommend not to use multi
filament with it. But if you have a solid stroke and able to stay loose it's
one of the best stick out there. To me it's the last stick I'll buy...
maybe when I get too old I'll make the switch.
You may need to move your contact point a bit further in front. With this
stick I can feel racquet doing all the work. Amazing racquet but may not
for everyone |
d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 16 哦，6.1 95一直是经典拍啊，我觉得没啥缺点就是有点硬肘子受不了。。。
oz
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: I been using 6.1 18x20 since late July or August. Planning to get the new
: ones. I was using the ps 95 but I added weight to have it at around 12.1 oz
: at the time. I can hit the ball harder with 6.1 thsn ps
|
d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 17 哈哈，早对你说换这个嘛。。。
's
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 6.1 18x20 is not easy to use at first. Strongly recommend not to use multi
: filament with it. But if you have a solid stroke and able to stay loose it's
: one of the best stick out there. To me it's the last stick I'll buy...
: maybe when I get too old I'll make the switch.
: You may need to move your contact point a bit further in front. With this
: stick I can feel racquet doing all the work. Amazing racquet but may not
: for everyone
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 18 I am not very sure about my current level. I started to play long long ago,
but did not dedicate except for the very beginning. Just get a little
serious in recent a couple of years
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: What level are you? And what's your style. I use 6.1 18x20. Probably will
: never switch in the yearsto come. And I probably have one of most topspin
: fh on the board
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 19 I don't think I'll add lead tape. 12.2 oz is enough for me. My current
racket is 12.1oz
16x18
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: wilson 6.1 16x18 and 18x20 也算w家主打的拍子，是w家pro里面用的最多的。 16x18
: 我用作备拍，控制会差一点，但也不是不能用，因为95拍面和，中间密外围疏的线的分
: 布 。
: 我推荐wilson ps 95 16x19 + 配重
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 20 As for style , the only thing I can say is that I try to avoid pushing the
ball
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: What level are you? And what's your style. I use 6.1 18x20. Probably will
: never switch in the yearsto come. And I probably have one of most topspin
: fh on the board
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 21 Ken has one? Should ask his opinion
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: Ken是不是有一个你可以试? 这个跟风格和发展目标有关，你的目标是想球速快点的话
: ，线疏点好，目标是控制磨球，线密点好。跟上不上旋有关系但是不绝对
|
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 22 i would suggest to go to a tennis club and demo it before buying it... If
first time feels good. I go to the extend of re-string the demo with my own
strings before make the actual purchase.
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: As for style , the only thing I can say is that I try to avoid pushing the
: ball
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 23 嗯，从blade 98换时，有demo过， 觉得有些偏重，而且当时我的反手stroke问题还太
多。重的拍子really amplifies stroke 中的glitches....
【在 d******x 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈，早对你说换这个嘛。。。
:
: 's
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z*****k
发帖数: 600 | 24 I've used blx95 18x20 exclusively. Even when strung with below average spin
strings, it is still great to do top spin shots. The feedback for net
clearance control is superb. Noice! |
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 25 高手！
spin
【在 z*****k 的大作中提到】
: I've used blx95 18x20 exclusively. Even when strung with below average spin
: strings, it is still great to do top spin shots. The feedback for net
: clearance control is superb. Noice!
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 26 Demo should be the best way, but don't know how long will the discount last?
own
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: i would suggest to go to a tennis club and demo it before buying it... If
: first time feels good. I go to the extend of re-string the demo with my own
: strings before make the actual purchase.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 27 have you used the new 6.1 18x20? It's 7pt HL compares to the previous one (8
HL). I demoed it over the weekend. I do feel a bit more plow through, and
stable.
spin
【在 z*****k 的大作中提到】
: I've used blx95 18x20 exclusively. Even when strung with below average spin
: strings, it is still great to do top spin shots. The feedback for net
: clearance control is superb. Noice!
|
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 28 It's a popular stick, find a friend who has it. :P
I think the previous generation of the discounted one has the exact spec.
last?
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: Demo should be the best way, but don't know how long will the discount last?
:
: own
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 29 How do you think the one with 16x18 string patern? Is the control really
that horrible?
spin
【在 z*****k 的大作中提到】
: I've used blx95 18x20 exclusively. Even when strung with below average spin
: strings, it is still great to do top spin shots. The feedback for net
: clearance control is superb. Noice!
|
z*****k
发帖数: 600 | 30 I learned a few ways to let highhands stare at me. Actually my left hand is
taller and stronger than my right hand even i am right-handed. That tells.
No i haven't demoed the later versions of the racket yet.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 高手！
:
: spin
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 31 if you hit topspin most of time, then I don't think it's a huge issue, might
need to make some adjustments. Your current is 98 sq, 16x20, 6.1 is 95,
16x18, in term of size of the square, it probably isn't much difference. The
difference between the babalot and wilson is the feel. I never gotten use
to the feel of babalot.
I never demo the 16x18. I did used the 6.1 team, 16x18 with lead tape (
borrowed it from friend), I had no issue with control of it.
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: I don't think I'll add lead tape. 12.2 oz is enough for me. My current
: racket is 12.1oz
:
: 16x18
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 33 赞"taller"!
is
【在 z*****k 的大作中提到】
: I learned a few ways to let highhands stare at me. Actually my left hand is
: taller and stronger than my right hand even i am right-handed. That tells.
: No i haven't demoed the later versions of the racket yet.
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 34 你推荐的倒是好拍子，可是太贵了，买不起啊 :-(
要不等到明年底，降价的时候再说？
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: 我以前用的是K95，16x18感觉比18x20好。
: 现在我推荐这个
: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_YOUTEK_Graphene_Speed_Pro/
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 35 作为器材派的教主，你对这款拍子有什么看法？
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 赞"taller"!
:
: is
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 36 偶是彻底的18x20男，所以偶的意见必然biased阿。。。
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 作为器材派的教主，你对这款拍子有什么看法？
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 37 biased的意见也是意见啊 :-)
这个世界上，哪一个意见不是biased?
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 偶是彻底的18x20男，所以偶的意见必然biased阿。。。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 38 BLX 6.1 95是暴力拍，所以你需要是个暴力男。如果是整天放dropshot的pusher，
用起来会很没有feel. 后者用PS 6.1 95更好，哪怕加重。
16x18比18x20更流行一些。你从16x20转过来可能16x18更接近，尤其你的Pure Storm
是98的。你会感觉硬一些，所以touch shots感觉不会有pure storm那么好。不过两者
都是暴力拍，不会有太大的transition困难。
偶自己无法适应PSC 6.1（最老版本的6.1 95），太硬了。
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: biased的意见也是意见啊 :-)
: 这个世界上，哪一个意见不是biased?
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 39 肯版是器材4.5，听他的相当靠谱 :)
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: biased的意见也是意见啊 :-)
: 这个世界上，哪一个意见不是biased?
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 40 另外，这个拍子是Wilson唯一一款20年不倒的95款，所以基本上是街拍。你买了的话
经常会发现对手和你用形状完全一样的拍子（可能油漆差一点）。所以很没有个性，
不适合showoff.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: BLX 6.1 95是暴力拍，所以你需要是个暴力男。如果是整天放dropshot的pusher，
: 用起来会很没有feel. 后者用PS 6.1 95更好，哪怕加重。
: 16x18比18x20更流行一些。你从16x20转过来可能16x18更接近，尤其你的Pure Storm
: 是98的。你会感觉硬一些，所以touch shots感觉不会有pure storm那么好。不过两者
: 都是暴力拍，不会有太大的transition困难。
: 偶自己无法适应PSC 6.1（最老版本的6.1 95），太硬了。
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 41 这个可不一定，用一样的拍子打的比别人好更能show off，比如黑导的自豪感就体现在
他用18x20, but“probably have one of most topspin fh on the board” ：）
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 另外，这个拍子是Wilson唯一一款20年不倒的95款，所以基本上是街拍。你买了的话
: 经常会发现对手和你用形状完全一样的拍子（可能油漆差一点）。所以很没有个性，
: 不适合showoff.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 42 这更加给wsn低手成为器材派提供了动力。一旦发现对方高手用一样的拍子，立刻
换一把，输了之后可以怪拍子。
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: 这个可不一定，用一样的拍子打的比别人好更能show off，比如黑导的自豪感就体现在
: 他用18x20, but“probably have one of most topspin fh on the board” ：）
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 43 那好，我就下单了。如果不喜欢，你就和肯版收了吧:-)
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: 肯版是器材4.5，听他的相当靠谱 :)
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | |
c****3
发帖数: 189 | 45 悔死没商量。
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 下单了，等试用过后，再来汇报
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 46 你别吓唬我，我胆小:-(
不过，这款拍子也算是W家的经典之一，不会真的像你说的那样不堪吧？ 会不会是因为
拍弦的原因？ 能分享一下你用的拍弦和拉的磅数吗？
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: 悔死没商量。
|
c****3
发帖数: 189 | 47 BLX 16 X 18, RPM BLAST 16 Main, Wilson NXT 16 Cross, both 58 lb, Main and
Cross both moves if hitting hard. Hard to control where the ball lands.
BLX 18 X 20, RPM Blast 17 Main and Cross, 60 lb, cannot carry the ball over
the net if the ball is around service line, while pure storm or aero storm
can.
BLX 18 X 20 (95") is not as good as Prestige MP (98") for the spin, while
control and power are almost the same. So Prestige MP is better.
I have Wilson BLX tour 90, still keep it. Had BLX 95 16 X18 and 18 X 20,
both sold after being disappointed with them. Bought Prestige MP, Pure storm
tour gt, Aero storm tour gt. Now like Aero storm tour gt best (RPM Blast 16
and NXT16) , Prestige MP 2nd, Pure storm tour gt is not powerful enough,
thus you also need to put powerful NXT 16 as cross.
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 你别吓唬我，我胆小:-(
: 不过，这款拍子也算是W家的经典之一，不会真的像你说的那样不堪吧？ 会不会是因为
: 拍弦的原因？ 能分享一下你用的拍弦和拉的磅数吗？
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 48 "BLX 18 X 20, RPM Blast 17 Main and Cross, 60 lb,"
have you tried to loosen up the tension a bit? I use BLX 18x20, and used RPM
Blast 16 on it before, tension is 58ish lb, so I imagine if I were to use
17 gauge, I would have strung it at 55 or 56.
over
storm
16
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: BLX 16 X 18, RPM BLAST 16 Main, Wilson NXT 16 Cross, both 58 lb, Main and
: Cross both moves if hitting hard. Hard to control where the ball lands.
: BLX 18 X 20, RPM Blast 17 Main and Cross, 60 lb, cannot carry the ball over
: the net if the ball is around service line, while pure storm or aero storm
: can.
: BLX 18 X 20 (95") is not as good as Prestige MP (98") for the spin, while
: control and power are almost the same. So Prestige MP is better.
: I have Wilson BLX tour 90, still keep it. Had BLX 95 16 X18 and 18 X 20,
: both sold after being disappointed with them. Bought Prestige MP, Pure storm
: tour gt, Aero storm tour gt. Now like Aero storm tour gt best (RPM Blast 16
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c****3
发帖数: 189 | 49 That's what I observed too, 17g poly does not have same spin as 16g with
same tension. Not as said by tenniswarehouse string brand introduction.
RPM
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: "BLX 18 X 20, RPM Blast 17 Main and Cross, 60 lb,"
: have you tried to loosen up the tension a bit? I use BLX 18x20, and used RPM
: Blast 16 on it before, tension is 58ish lb, so I imagine if I were to use
: 17 gauge, I would have strung it at 55 or 56.
:
: over
: storm
: 16
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 50 in the past when I tried the thinner gauge, I also made it same tension or
tighter. It didn't turn out well, the feel and spin were not what was said
about thinner gauge. Not long ago, I came across some discussion where it is
said the thinner gauge should use lower tension...
Some ppl on the board argued it shouldn't be the case, using physics formula
for his argument... for me, the bottom line is same or tighter tension felt
like crap, I have not tried the lower tension, but I would definitely try
it if I were to string thinner gauge again.
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: That's what I observed too, 17g poly does not have same spin as 16g with
: same tension. Not as said by tenniswarehouse string brand introduction.
:
: RPM
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 51 Thinner string is definitely more powerful for vintage flat hitters like
me. The tension recommendations worked for me pretty well.
is
formula
felt
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: in the past when I tried the thinner gauge, I also made it same tension or
: tighter. It didn't turn out well, the feel and spin were not what was said
: about thinner gauge. Not long ago, I came across some discussion where it is
: said the thinner gauge should use lower tension...
: Some ppl on the board argued it shouldn't be the case, using physics formula
: for his argument... for me, the bottom line is same or tighter tension felt
: like crap, I have not tried the lower tension, but I would definitely try
: it if I were to string thinner gauge again.
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s*******t
发帖数: 2896 | 52 版大这么多拍子，怎么保管啊？我现在日常闲置的拍子已经超过6支，占了一个拍包了。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Thinner string is definitely more powerful for vintage flat hitters like
: me. The tension recommendations worked for me pretty well.
:
: is
: formula
: felt
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 53 Closet.
了。
【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: 版大这么多拍子，怎么保管啊？我现在日常闲置的拍子已经超过6支，占了一个拍包了。
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s*******t
发帖数: 2896 | 54 我的理论恰巧和你的实践一致。
材质相同，细弹簧容比粗弹簧易拉坏，进入拉力to形变的非线性区，手感通常变差。
lower一点tension，让线多在拉力to形变的线性区跑。
is
formula
felt
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: in the past when I tried the thinner gauge, I also made it same tension or
: tighter. It didn't turn out well, the feel and spin were not what was said
: about thinner gauge. Not long ago, I came across some discussion where it is
: said the thinner gauge should use lower tension...
: Some ppl on the board argued it shouldn't be the case, using physics formula
: for his argument... for me, the bottom line is same or tighter tension felt
: like crap, I have not tried the lower tension, but I would definitely try
: it if I were to string thinner gauge again.
|
t******g
发帖数: 2253 | 55 买过一只Wilson Kfactor Six One 95 16×18，打不惯卖给小伙伴了。我觉得lz不用纠
结拍子啊，Pure Storm Tour挺好的，试下不同的线吧。Pure Strom Tour不是特别硬，
可以full poly，这样control和spin都会很不错。 |
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 56 wow, seems you tried everything! I put NXT Tour 17 on BLX 16x18 at 56 lb.
Based on your experience, seems a bad choice.
You mean Aero storm tour gt has more power than Pure Storm Tour GT? I do
feel PST doesn't have enough power.
over
storm
16
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: BLX 16 X 18, RPM BLAST 16 Main, Wilson NXT 16 Cross, both 58 lb, Main and
: Cross both moves if hitting hard. Hard to control where the ball lands.
: BLX 18 X 20, RPM Blast 17 Main and Cross, 60 lb, cannot carry the ball over
: the net if the ball is around service line, while pure storm or aero storm
: can.
: BLX 18 X 20 (95") is not as good as Prestige MP (98") for the spin, while
: control and power are almost the same. So Prestige MP is better.
: I have Wilson BLX tour 90, still keep it. Had BLX 95 16 X18 and 18 X 20,
: both sold after being disappointed with them. Bought Prestige MP, Pure storm
: tour gt, Aero storm tour gt. Now like Aero storm tour gt best (RPM Blast 16
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 57 you must be an engineer
【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: 我的理论恰巧和你的实践一致。
: 材质相同，细弹簧容比粗弹簧易拉坏，进入拉力to形变的非线性区，手感通常变差。
: lower一点tension，让线多在拉力to形变的线性区跑。
:
: is
: formula
: felt
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 58 I do like my Pure Storm Tour GT. Just noticed TW is selling this racquet at
good discount, so want to 尝尝鲜, since I haven't used Wilson for a REALLY
long time.
Which poly do you think has both control and spin? I am using Kbaum Pro Line
II 17.
【在 t******g 的大作中提到】
: 买过一只Wilson Kfactor Six One 95 16×18，打不惯卖给小伙伴了。我觉得lz不用纠
: 结拍子啊，Pure Storm Tour挺好的，试下不同的线吧。Pure Strom Tour不是特别硬，
: 可以full poly，这样control和spin都会很不错。
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 59 This is very interesting! Maybe this is the reason why I have better feel
and control when using 16 gauge string at the same tension than using 17
gauge.
is
formula
felt
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: in the past when I tried the thinner gauge, I also made it same tension or
: tighter. It didn't turn out well, the feel and spin were not what was said
: about thinner gauge. Not long ago, I came across some discussion where it is
: said the thinner gauge should use lower tension...
: Some ppl on the board argued it shouldn't be the case, using physics formula
: for his argument... for me, the bottom line is same or tighter tension felt
: like crap, I have not tried the lower tension, but I would definitely try
: it if I were to string thinner gauge again.
|
t******g
发帖数: 2253 | 60 Solinco Tour Bite, Volkl Cyclone, Babolat RPM Blast.
at
Line
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: I do like my Pure Storm Tour GT. Just noticed TW is selling this racquet at
: good discount, so want to 尝尝鲜, since I haven't used Wilson for a REALLY
: long time.
: Which poly do you think has both control and spin? I am using Kbaum Pro Line
: II 17.
|
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c****3
发帖数: 189 | 61 Aero storm tour gt 11.9 ounce. has more power than pure storm tour. But aero
storm tour is much stiffer (7.1), so your elbow may not be able to handle
both RPM main and cross, I use NXT 16 as cross for it. Still may hit long
with its power.
Somebody suggested using Aero storm gt (not tour), by adding weight to meet
its tour version, and you may find it is more agile and power is just good,
and less stiff.
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: wow, seems you tried everything! I put NXT Tour 17 on BLX 16x18 at 56 lb.
: Based on your experience, seems a bad choice.
: You mean Aero storm tour gt has more power than Pure Storm Tour GT? I do
: feel PST doesn't have enough power.
:
: over
: storm
: 16
|
c****3
发帖数: 189 | 62 16 X 20 string bed is kind of compromise between 16X18 and 18X20. So it has
both spin and control.
Wilson's 16X18 and 18X20 go to two extreme directions, and 16X19 for 95 is
still too loose to have enough control.
For 18X20, you need 98" or 100" to have enough spin, like what Joke and
Tommy Haas are using. No top pro is using 18X20 now, and only one is using
16X18.
at
Line
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: I do like my Pure Storm Tour GT. Just noticed TW is selling this racquet at
: good discount, so want to 尝尝鲜, since I haven't used Wilson for a REALLY
: long time.
: Which poly do you think has both control and spin? I am using Kbaum Pro Line
: II 17.
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 63 I have other friends recommended Solinco Tour Bite too. Will try this on my
PST when I restring it.
【在 t******g 的大作中提到】
: Solinco Tour Bite, Volkl Cyclone, Babolat RPM Blast.
:
: at
: Line
|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 64 Delpo uses 18x20. And Joker and Haas's rackets are both 95 in actual size.
has
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: 16 X 20 string bed is kind of compromise between 16X18 and 18X20. So it has
: both spin and control.
: Wilson's 16X18 and 18X20 go to two extreme directions, and 16X19 for 95 is
: still too loose to have enough control.
: For 18X20, you need 98" or 100" to have enough spin, like what Joke and
: Tommy Haas are using. No top pro is using 18X20 now, and only one is using
: 16X18.
:
: at
: Line
|
c****3
发帖数: 189 | 65 Haas's racket looks small, but Joker's is definitely bigger than 95. You can
see it from TV image.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Delpo uses 18x20. And Joker and Haas's rackets are both 95 in actual size.
:
: has
|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 66 Joker uses Radical MP, which is 95 in actual size. It's a well known fact.
Haas uses PT57A, which has the same shape as Prestige MP and 95 in actual
size. Radical MP and Prestige MP have the same racket hoop size and shape.
can
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: Haas's racket looks small, but Joker's is definitely bigger than 95. You can
: see it from TV image.
|
c****3
发帖数: 189 | 67 Prestige MP size is bigger than Wilson BLX 95. I have both and once compared
each other. Thus Radical MP should be physically 98" as well.
Prestige MID is actually smaller than 90", even it says 93".
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Joker uses Radical MP, which is 95 in actual size. It's a well known fact.
: Haas uses PT57A, which has the same shape as Prestige MP and 95 in actual
: size. Radical MP and Prestige MP have the same racket hoop size and shape.
:
: can
|
m**x
发帖数: 1084 | 68 这个拍子比较重，截击球有时不好掌握。底线倒是很好。 |
c****3
发帖数: 189 | 69 操控性比11.9 ounce的Prestige MP差不少.
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】
: 这个拍子比较重，截击球有时不好掌握。底线倒是很好。
|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 70 Then you should compare them again. Prestige MP is 94 for the past 15-20
years or so. Prestige Mid is 89.5. And it was printed on the racket as
89.5 sq in 25 years ago. Claiming 98 and 93 was just Head's marketing
trick.
Radical MP has the same hoop shape as Prestige MP. Their grommets can even
exchange.
compared
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
: Prestige MP size is bigger than Wilson BLX 95. I have both and once compared
: each other. Thus Radical MP should be physically 98" as well.
: Prestige MID is actually smaller than 90", even it says 93".
|
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 71 BLX 6.1 95 的新球拍到手，试用了大约一个多小时，不过球友水平不太高，只能说说
初步的感受，和我现在正在用的 Pure Storm Tour GT 做一个初步的对比：
拍弦和拉的磅数如下：
BLX 6.1 95: NXT Tour 17 string @ 56 lb
PST GT: KBaum Pro Line II 17 @ 58 lb
底线：正、反手的底线明显地比 PST 的 power 强，但是 control 也是明显不如PST。
按照用 PST 的感觉，稍微一发力，球能出界 1～2 feet。
发球：plow through 的感觉明显不如 PST
网前：maneuverability 明显比 PST 好，而且感觉更 solid 和 crispy。 |
x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 72 恭喜！新拍子打个十次就习惯了，如果十次还不成，要么换拍子要么改打法：）
16*18配56lb NXT Tour 17 听起来是倾向网前，底线暴力的配置，和你的感觉一致。打
底线的时候可能可以试着专注打底线内某个点，这样能避免一些过度发力，因为力量已
经足够
了。要么改半西方式继续暴力 :)
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: BLX 6.1 95 的新球拍到手，试用了大约一个多小时，不过球友水平不太高，只能说说
: 初步的感受，和我现在正在用的 Pure Storm Tour GT 做一个初步的对比：
: 拍弦和拉的磅数如下：
: BLX 6.1 95: NXT Tour 17 string @ 56 lb
: PST GT: KBaum Pro Line II 17 @ 58 lb
: 底线：正、反手的底线明显地比 PST 的 power 强，但是 control 也是明显不如PST。
: 按照用 PST 的感觉，稍微一发力，球能出界 1～2 feet。
: 发球：plow through 的感觉明显不如 PST
: 网前：maneuverability 明显比 PST 好，而且感觉更 solid 和 crispy。
|
t******g
发帖数: 2253 | 73 恭喜lz。我现在懒得折腾拍子了，有四只Volkl Powerbridge 10mid，准备用好几年。 |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 74 这些区别感觉至少60%来自于线。
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: BLX 6.1 95 的新球拍到手，试用了大约一个多小时，不过球友水平不太高，只能说说
: 初步的感受，和我现在正在用的 Pure Storm Tour GT 做一个初步的对比：
: 拍弦和拉的磅数如下：
: BLX 6.1 95: NXT Tour 17 string @ 56 lb
: PST GT: KBaum Pro Line II 17 @ 58 lb
: 底线：正、反手的底线明显地比 PST 的 power 强，但是 control 也是明显不如PST。
: 按照用 PST 的感觉，稍微一发力，球能出界 1～2 feet。
: 发球：plow through 的感觉明显不如 PST
: 网前：maneuverability 明显比 PST 好，而且感觉更 solid 和 crispy。
|
s*****n
发帖数: 1279 | 75 Wilson Six.One 95 BLX 都好重啊。有人试过Wilson Six.One 95 BLX team吗？
control怎么样？ |
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 76 挥起来不重， 击球时反而更轻松。
我用 PS 95时， 感觉要finish我的stroke, 击完球后我自己得加些力来finish (it's
a feeling hard to describe it), 用6.1 95, 感觉拍子doing all the work, 我只
需跟着拍子就行。
重的拍子容易暴露你 stroke 中的不足，所以我也只是最近才开始用的。 我不
recommend beginner to use heavy (11.5+ oz) racquets.
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: Wilson Six.One 95 BLX 都好重啊。有人试过Wilson Six.One 95 BLX team吗？
: control怎么样？
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 77 可惜现在是冬天，室外打不了。
你说的“专注打底线内某个点”是否就是减力打控制？
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜！新拍子打个十次就习惯了，如果十次还不成，要么换拍子要么改打法：）
: 16*18配56lb NXT Tour 17 听起来是倾向网前，底线暴力的配置，和你的感觉一致。打
: 底线的时候可能可以试着专注打底线内某个点，这样能避免一些过度发力，因为力量已
: 经足够
: 了。要么改半西方式继续暴力 :)
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 78 其实，多练习，多打比赛，提高水平才是王道。可惜的是，我打球的机会太少，只好用
这种方式来过过瘾:-)
【在 t******g 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜lz。我现在懒得折腾拍子了，有四只Volkl Powerbridge 10mid，准备用好几年。
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 79 除了前面一位大牛推荐的 Solinco Tour Bite， 你有什么推荐的吗？
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 这些区别感觉至少60%来自于线。
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 80 轻重完全在个人的习惯吧。我感觉 Wilson Six.One 95 BLX 用起来比 PST 还轻，尽管
其实际重量比 PST 高 0.1oz
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: Wilson Six.One 95 BLX 都好重啊。有人试过Wilson Six.One 95 BLX team吗？
: control怎么样？
|
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|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 81 Well, I always recommend the cheapest and strongest...
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 除了前面一位大牛推荐的 Solinco Tour Bite， 你有什么推荐的吗？
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 82 按照我打球的频率，一根17的poly，打个好几年都打不断，所以，durability 对我不
是太重要
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Well, I always recommend the cheapest and strongest...
|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 83 那就显然ALU power了！
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 按照我打球的频率，一根17的poly，打个好几年都打不断，所以，durability 对我不
: 是太重要
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 84 哪个ALU power? 我可没钱每样买一根啊!
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 那就显然ALU power了！
|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 85 难道还有很多种？就买最常见的。反正都很贵。。。
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 哪个ALU power? 我可没钱每样买一根啊!
|
l********g
发帖数: 677 | 86 在TW大致数了一下，至少有4种
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 难道还有很多种？就买最常见的。反正都很贵。。。
|
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 87 ALU power，不带任何花哨后缀的。好像只有16L.
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 在TW大致数了一下，至少有4种
|
x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 88 就是练习或者在自己占主动的时候，击球时心里有个底线内理想的落点。因为这个时候
眼睛是看球的，所以只能意淫某个点，而且八成打不到，就是有那么个控制的想法, 也
不必想着减力。不过也不是都有好处，如果想的太多反到容易导致动作做不到位或变形
。我被Ken和Djoker虐了一个夏天，后来又被Bee虐，发现自己cross court不行，拉不
开角度，过去的几周每次打球都想着cross court发球区的外角，感觉有点进步。
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 可惜现在是冬天，室外打不了。
: 你说的“专注打底线内某个点”是否就是减力打控制？
|
x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 89 这个未必对他是好选择，用多了现在越来越发现luxilon的坏处。是耐用，也能保持些
拉力，而且新线的底线感觉很好，但是打个10小时后感觉就象药渣，底线没感觉了，网
前更不行，又舍不得剪。
有一款线好像冬天很实用，Kirschbaum Pro line #2 1.25, 是poly，有上旋，但是细
软，夏天太软，冬天正好（包括室内），linhucong你可以到我这拿一根试试。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 那就显然ALU power了！
|
t******g
发帖数: 2253 | 90 我不牛的啊。现在也就弱4左右的水平，争取早日赢Alex。Solinco Tour Bite我觉得是
不错，不过稍微有点硬，full bed Tour Bite有几次我肘有点不舒服。我纠结了半天最
终没买tour bite的reel，买了Volkl Cyclone 16的reel。我试过的我觉得也还不错的
线推荐几个
Solinco Tour Bite 17：旋转很强，控制和力量都很不错。就是稍微有点硬。
Volkl Cyclone 17：比Tour Bite软些，旋转很不错，但是Tour Bite 17的旋转略好些
，durability比Tour Bite 17好些。控制还不错，力量相比Tour Bite 17差些。
Yonex Pro Tour Spin 16L: 这个线最大的优点是控制很好，据说tension stability也
非常好，这个我没太大感觉。旋转还不错，比Cyclone应该差些。力量不太大，比较
dead。
我在我另外一个拍子上用过Alu Power，不是特别喜欢。我的小伙伴最喜欢RPM Blast，
Solinco Tour Bite和Alu Power。他觉得Pro Line II也很不错。RPM Blast这个线也是
fresh的时候很爽，但是掉磅很快。
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 除了前面一位大牛推荐的 Solinco Tour Bite， 你有什么推荐的吗？
|
|
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 91 我也买了几个set 的volk cyclone 16 的确不错, 不过如果单反建议应17 gauge . 不
过我还是觉得bhb7 crisp.
【在 t******g 的大作中提到】
: 我不牛的啊。现在也就弱4左右的水平，争取早日赢Alex。Solinco Tour Bite我觉得是
: 不错，不过稍微有点硬，full bed Tour Bite有几次我肘有点不舒服。我纠结了半天最
: 终没买tour bite的reel，买了Volkl Cyclone 16的reel。我试过的我觉得也还不错的
: 线推荐几个
: Solinco Tour Bite 17：旋转很强，控制和力量都很不错。就是稍微有点硬。
: Volkl Cyclone 17：比Tour Bite软些，旋转很不错，但是Tour Bite 17的旋转略好些
: ，durability比Tour Bite 17好些。控制还不错，力量相比Tour Bite 17差些。
: Yonex Pro Tour Spin 16L: 这个线最大的优点是控制很好，据说tension stability也
: 非常好，这个我没太大感觉。旋转还不错，比Cyclone应该差些。力量不太大，比较
: dead。
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d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 92 别忘了下次找只psc 6.1 95来试试。。。
s
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 挥起来不重， 击球时反而更轻松。
: 我用 PS 95时， 感觉要finish我的stroke, 击完球后我自己得加些力来finish (it's
: a feeling hard to describe it), 用6.1 95, 感觉拍子doing all the work, 我只
: 需跟着拍子就行。
: 重的拍子容易暴露你 stroke 中的不足，所以我也只是最近才开始用的。 我不
: recommend beginner to use heavy (11.5+ oz) racquets.
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L*********n
发帖数: 185 | 93
一般的就是ALU POWER ROUGH 和REGULAR ALU POWER. ALU POWER Rough 对身体的负担
稍微小一点，设计上接触球的方向宽一点，而REGULAR ALU POWER 就基本上时金属WIRE
.
ALU ROUGH是我个人最喜欢的线，但是一定主要绝对要带避震和护肘，这个线可能是最
容易打出网球肘的几种线之一了。
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: 哪个ALU power? 我可没钱每样买一根啊!
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 94 我现在一直在用这个线
【在 x*d 的大作中提到】
: 这个未必对他是好选择，用多了现在越来越发现luxilon的坏处。是耐用，也能保持些
: 拉力，而且新线的底线感觉很好，但是打个10小时后感觉就象药渣，底线没感觉了，网
: 前更不行，又舍不得剪。
: 有一款线好像冬天很实用，Kirschbaum Pro line #2 1.25, 是poly，有上旋，但是细
: 软，夏天太软，冬天正好（包括室内），linhucong你可以到我这拿一根试试。
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 95 曾经得过一次网球肘，不想再经历一次这样的痛苦
WIRE
【在 L*********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 一般的就是ALU POWER ROUGH 和REGULAR ALU POWER. ALU POWER Rough 对身体的负担
: 稍微小一点，设计上接触球的方向宽一点，而REGULAR ALU POWER 就基本上时金属WIRE
: .
: ALU ROUGH是我个人最喜欢的线，但是一定主要绝对要带避震和护肘，这个线可能是最
: 容易打出网球肘的几种线之一了。
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l********g
发帖数: 677 | 96 bhb7 是什么东东？
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 我也买了几个set 的volk cyclone 16 的确不错, 不过如果单反建议应17 gauge . 不
: 过我还是觉得bhb7 crisp.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 97 What's psc 6.1 95?
【在 d******x 的大作中提到】
: 别忘了下次找只psc 6.1 95来试试。。。
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 98 Tourna big hitter black 7. My preferred use of string cuz it's cheap good
spin and crisp feel, draw back is it doesn't last as long as other polys and
when it about to break my ball tend to go half foot to a foot long.
【在 l********g 的大作中提到】
: bhb7 是什么东东？
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 99 Wilson Prostaff Classic 6.1 95. The racket that started it all...
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: What's psc 6.1 95?
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 100 I had it... give 2 two 2 different friend but they end up not playing
tennis. ... I still have the stretched version.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Wilson Prostaff Classic 6.1 95. The racket that started it all...
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d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 101 就是pro staff classic 6.1 95老古董。。。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: What's psc 6.1 95?
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d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 102 stretched 不怎么样赶紧扔了。。。
为啥送人？
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: I had it... give 2 two 2 different friend but they end up not playing
: tennis. ... I still have the stretched version.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 103 they thought about playing tennis... I'm gonna see if I can get them back
lol
【在 d******x 的大作中提到】
: stretched 不怎么样赶紧扔了。。。
: 为啥送人？
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d******x
发帖数: 11837 | 104 哈哈，不过这种经典拍子的确该收藏的。。。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: they thought about playing tennis... I'm gonna see if I can get them back
: lol
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