g********0
发帖数: 6201 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: atack (小军号), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 新冠尤其是疫苗对CD8 T细胞是毁灭性的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 22 23:58:15 2022, 美东)
http://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-021-00750-4
现在关于超级抗原、T细胞无差别激活和衰竭的文章越来越多。猴痘的R0以前是0.98，
现在明显高于1了。
人类社会只有更分散隔离，长期戴口罩…才能弥补免疫系统的损失。
: 卧槽，你又来吓人了，这样的话，欧美以色列还有活人吗
| z********6
发帖数: 2 | | C*******h
发帖数: 6095 | 3 看来我们以后只能戴着口罩去深山老林里呆着了。。。
【在 g********0 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: atack (小军号), 信区: Military
: 标 题: Re: 新冠尤其是疫苗对CD8 T细胞是毁灭性的
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 22 23:58:15 2022, 美东)
: http://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-021-00750-4
: 现在关于超级抗原、T细胞无差别激活和衰竭的文章越来越多。猴痘的R0以前是0.98，
: 现在明显高于1了。
: 人类社会只有更分散隔离，长期戴口罩…才能弥补免疫系统的损失。
:
: 卧槽，你又来吓人了，这样的话，欧美以色列还有活人吗
:
| z******j
发帖数: 1265 | | m****n
发帖数: 1 | 5 还“其是疫苗对CD8 T细胞是毁灭性的”，这不是胡说八道嘛。
文章唯一提到疫苗的段落是这样说的：
Currently available vaccines using diverse platforms have been shown to
elicit protective T-cell immunity [4, 7, 128,129,130]. Currently, COVID-19
vaccines are administered not only to unexposed individuals but also to
COVID-19 convalescent individuals. Given that exhausted CD8+ T cells lose
their potential to differentiate into memory T cells, the potential CD8+ T-
cell exhaustion in individuals who have had COVID-19 can impede vaccine-
induced development of T-cell memory. However, because CD8+ T-cell
exhaustion is not evident in patients with COVID-19, it is assumed that
COVID-19-experienced individuals successfully develop functional CD8+ T-cell
memory following vaccination. Recent studies have reported that a single
dose of mRNA vaccine robustly induces spike-specific T-cell responses in
COVID-19 convalescent individuals [131]. | C**********1
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