j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | | n****g
发帖数: 14743 | | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 3 Only fools cannot see this incident is targeted toward Chinese people, got
anti-Chinese written all over it. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 4 Turn an international airline around in mid-air, and call a Chinese mom
kidnap her own son and thrown her in jail and don't allow her to visit her
dying mother.
How can you guys don't see the injustice here. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 5 This incident make me feel sick about America. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 6 What I have diminishing little hope about America is gone. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 7 America to me is now 8ren8yi. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 8 No different than Chinese government. | s******y
发帖数: 17729 | 9 外F和普通华人是不一样的群体，外F更黑中国，恨中国
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: Only fools cannot see this incident is targeted toward Chinese people, got
: anti-Chinese written all over it.
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 10 I don't care about 外F, but I care that FBI and American people 恨中国.
Once an international airborne, it's in international space, FBI do not have
authority to turn it around. | | | j******t
发帖数: 788 | 11 她蠢在既然要逃回中国就不要选择美联航的飞机.
have
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: I don't care about 外F, but I care that FBI and American people 恨中国.
: Once an international airborne, it's in international space, FBI do not have
: authority to turn it around.
| x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 12
她蠢在既然要逃回中国就不要在上飞机前还要写email通知美国丈夫。
【在 j******t 的大作中提到】
: 她蠢在既然要逃回中国就不要选择美联航的飞机.
:
: have
| n********5
发帖数: 11 | 13 She should have just left without saying anything and she should have been
fine. She could have come back a few weeks later like nothing happened. Her
husband would have no idea that they made a trip back to China | l****i
发帖数: 4609 | 14 I do not think Wenjing Liu had any intent to kidnap her son to China and
never return.
Her problem is that she did not take the court order seriously which she
should have , like many idiots here a few days ago thought they would not be
obligated to child support anymore if they lost their job or became
penniless.
Some people interpret the law according to their own emotion, and refuse to
acknowledge the fact it doe not count in the real world.
I do not think she could be convicted of child kidnapping because the
evidence is circumstantial, but she would definitely be held in contempt to
court order, which is also a crime.
She needs to hire a competent lawyer to fight for her and her son in the
courtroom, but I doubt she has the financial resources to do so.
Her
【在 n********5 的大作中提到】
: She should have just left without saying anything and she should have been
: fine. She could have come back a few weeks later like nothing happened. Her
: husband would have no idea that they made a trip back to China
| g******l
发帖数: 5103 | 15 This is NOT targeting against Chinese people. Cheap wai F deserve it.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: Only fools cannot see this incident is targeted toward Chinese people, got
: anti-Chinese written all over it.
| s***y
发帖数: 12419 | | T******g
发帖数: 790 | | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 18 If you would be nice to a girl, maybe you could get some.
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 外F不算中国人，别用Chinese
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 19 bad person is a bad person, it doesn't matter what skin color they have.
That's also true for good person.
Anyone ma 外F is definitely not a good person. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 20 What I see is anti-Chinese movement is being developed.
And I don't see any solutions, but we have to pay attention to it. | | | c*********l
发帖数: 2893 | 21 那不是想卖个票，弹弄一下对方.临走时告诉对方老娘带孩子走了，白白吧您纳.
结果没弄好，演砸了，露一屁股.
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
:
: 她蠢在既然要逃回中国就不要在上飞机前还要写email通知美国丈夫。
| m********8
发帖数: 938 | 22 老外对中国人的看法受外发影响很深，外发抹黑中国，倒贴嫖资，让老外认为中国人都
是没脑子，下贱，种族歧视。 | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 23 if you can be a little bit better than you are now, maybe they don't need to
外发, they can marry you instead.
But too bad wsn can't handle women, and they do want they do best, whine and
blame on the women.
You are really 让老外认为中国人都是没脑子，下贱，种族歧视 and cruel。
【在 m********8 的大作中提到】
: 老外对中国人的看法受外发影响很深，外发抹黑中国，倒贴嫖资，让老外认为中国人都
: 是没脑子，下贱，种族歧视。
| m***s
发帖数: 1777 | 24 The pair had joint legal custody of the child, and the custody order said
that neither party could travel with the child outside the United States
without written and notarized consent of the other party.
靠，不懂英文还是估计误导呀。既然法律这么规定的，她不遵守，跟中国人有屁关系。
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: Only fools cannot see this incident is targeted toward Chinese people, got
: anti-Chinese written all over it.
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 25 The law also said if you slap your wife and children, you could be in jail
for spouse or child abuse.
But how many of wsn are actually in jail for that?
If the women really want you in jail they could have the law enforced, but
most of them will not do that. That's called love, do you understand?
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】
: The pair had joint legal custody of the child, and the custody order said
: that neither party could travel with the child outside the United States
: without written and notarized consent of the other party.
: 靠，不懂英文还是估计误导呀。既然法律这么规定的，她不遵守，跟中国人有屁关系。
| l****i
发帖数: 4609 | 26 She just violated a court order. I do not think FBI would formally charge
her kidnaping.
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】
: The pair had joint legal custody of the child, and the custody order said
: that neither party could travel with the child outside the United States
: without written and notarized consent of the other party.
: 靠，不懂英文还是估计误导呀。既然法律这么规定的，她不遵守，跟中国人有屁关系。
| m***s
发帖数: 1777 | 27 不理解，这两个有啥关系，她们是已经离婚了，还有个屁love。WSN因不因为打老婆进
监狱跟她不遵守法律有关系吗？
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: The law also said if you slap your wife and children, you could be in jail
: for spouse or child abuse.
: But how many of wsn are actually in jail for that?
: If the women really want you in jail they could have the law enforced, but
: most of them will not do that. That's called love, do you understand?
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 28 There are a lot of case such as not paying child support, domestic abuse, if
women really enforce the law, many men would be in jail.
But they have mercy on their men even though they have divorced, or in the
process or divorce. These facts proved that women are more loving, merciful
and forgiving than men.
Now there is a case of American guy doing terrible stuff to his divorced
wife who happen to be a Chinese.
You as a Chinese, do want to lift a finger to help your own kind, but want
beat her to death, calling her names, laughing at her misfortune.
Your opportunity to be a better men has passed.
You just convicted yourselves as human trash WSN.
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】
: 不理解，这两个有啥关系，她们是已经离婚了，还有个屁love。WSN因不因为打老婆进
: 监狱跟她不遵守法律有关系吗？
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 29 就算不考虑法律问题, 请问你, 在孩子父亲明显表达不同意的情况下, 她自己
带孩子离开美国, 合适么?
be
to
to
【在 l****i 的大作中提到】
: I do not think Wenjing Liu had any intent to kidnap her son to China and
: never return.
: Her problem is that she did not take the court order seriously which she
: should have , like many idiots here a few days ago thought they would not be
: obligated to child support anymore if they lost their job or became
: penniless.
: Some people interpret the law according to their own emotion, and refuse to
: acknowledge the fact it doe not count in the real world.
: I do not think she could be convicted of child kidnapping because the
: evidence is circumstantial, but she would definitely be held in contempt to
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 30 简单点说, 孩子父亲未必对把前妻关起来有多大愿望, 但他显然不希望
前妻带孩子离开美国. 在当时除了报警没别的办法, 难道你指望他自己
去飞机上把孩子抢回来? 还是等孩子到了中国他再飞过去把孩子带回来?
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: The law also said if you slap your wife and children, you could be in jail
: for spouse or child abuse.
: But how many of wsn are actually in jail for that?
: If the women really want you in jail they could have the law enforced, but
: most of them will not do that. That's called love, do you understand?
| | | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 31 You want to know the boy's father's motive?
Don't be so naive, the boy's father use joint custody, so he can avoid pay
child support.
He use the law to punish his ex-wife, to revenge the divorce.
He is a low life white trash, who never graduated from high school.
It's a mistake on her part to ever married him.
But American law has exceptions to protect the innocent, such as if you are
caught in speeding, and if you can show proof that you have a medical
emergency, need to go to hospital, the cop will let you go, because the
court will definitely dismiss the case.
Another example is the luxury car tax law, has luxury tax on cars over $30K,
but with exception the handicap people, because they have to put more
equipments in the car to support their handicap.
In this case, her mother is dying, that's an emergency, time is running out
to see her mother and for the boy to see his grandma for one last time. She
already notified her husband by email. The other junk that the law requires
are just paper.
If the mother really want to take the child and run, she could do it any
time and do it quietly and be successful doing it already.
This is a case of putting paperwork above human need, and use law as weapon
to hurt the boy's mother to satisfy an evil man's heart to seek revenge.
The victim is the boy's mother and the boy for he might never see his
grandma again.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 简单点说, 孩子父亲未必对把前妻关起来有多大愿望, 但他显然不希望
: 前妻带孩子离开美国. 在当时除了报警没别的办法, 难道你指望他自己
: 去飞机上把孩子抢回来? 还是等孩子到了中国他再飞过去把孩子带回来?
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 32 能别不懂装懂么?
joint custody是非常常见的情况, 离婚有孩子的, 没有
特殊情况都是joint custody, 因为没有必要因为离婚就剥夺
某一方对孩子的权利. 完全不能用于避免child support.
最可笑的就是这种, 一什么事, 事情本身对错不管, 就喜欢
借题发挥一通.
are
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: You want to know the boy's father's motive?
: Don't be so naive, the boy's father use joint custody, so he can avoid pay
: child support.
: He use the law to punish his ex-wife, to revenge the divorce.
: He is a low life white trash, who never graduated from high school.
: It's a mistake on her part to ever married him.
: But American law has exceptions to protect the innocent, such as if you are
: caught in speeding, and if you can show proof that you have a medical
: emergency, need to go to hospital, the cop will let you go, because the
: court will definitely dismiss the case.
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 33 Foolish are you, if the mother want full custody of her child she could get
it, there is very little the child's father can do to stop it.
American court give the mother more rights than the father in divorce case
and that's very correct in protecting woman and child's rights.
But Chinese mothers usually don't know the law, or too kind heart not to ask
for their full rights.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 能别不懂装懂么?
: joint custody是非常常见的情况, 离婚有孩子的, 没有
: 特殊情况都是joint custody, 因为没有必要因为离婚就剥夺
: 某一方对孩子的权利. 完全不能用于避免child support.
: 最可笑的就是这种, 一什么事, 事情本身对错不管, 就喜欢
: 借题发挥一通.
:
: are
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 34 If a Chinese person don't care about his own kind, then he is no different
than an animal.
Why would any girl Chinese or not want to marry an animal. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 35 I mean if you beat a white guy on the street, white people will call a cop.
if you beat a black guy on the street, black brothers will kill you on the
spot.
Shouldn't you have compassion on a Chinese sister got wronged by a white
trash. | m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 36 " American court give the mother more rights than the father in divorce case"
是事实.
但是这与"if the mother want full custody of her child she could get it"
是完全两回事.
你大概不明白physical custody与legal custody的差别.
其实说这么多没什么用. 你就是喜欢那儿自说自话, 先编一个你自己想
出来的男方的恶劣动机, 然后来借题发挥.
咱正常人, 是只根据事实说话. 事实是男方要制止女方没经他同意
带孩子离境的行为才报的警. 这个做法, 不但合法, 而且完全合情合理.
你再胡编人家是为什么这么做, 也不说明问题.
get
ask
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: Foolish are you, if the mother want full custody of her child she could get
: it, there is very little the child's father can do to stop it.
: American court give the mother more rights than the father in divorce case
: and that's very correct in protecting woman and child's rights.
: But Chinese mothers usually don't know the law, or too kind heart not to ask
: for their full rights.
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 37 你的意思显然是如果你无故杀个美国人, 中国人也要支持你.
而且还要大家说你是"got wronged by a white trash"
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: I mean if you beat a white guy on the street, white people will call a cop.
: if you beat a black guy on the street, black brothers will kill you on the
: spot.
: Shouldn't you have compassion on a Chinese sister got wronged by a white
: trash.
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 38 don't need to bullshit.
the child was never in any danger.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 你的意思显然是如果你无故杀个美国人, 中国人也要支持你.
: 而且还要大家说你是"got wronged by a white trash"
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 39 和这完全没关系. 人家男方就一句"我没同意", (警察请她母女下来的)
理由就足够充分了.
你在这儿的表现就是: 事实不重要. 你想怎么借题发挥就怎么发挥.
就一简单的没得到孩子父亲同意(实际上是人家确实不同意)就想把孩子
带出国的事, 你这儿一会儿说孩子父亲人渣, 一会说这是中国人被"wrong"了.
可见你对事实不感兴趣, 只对中国人感兴趣.
你是中国人, 你做什么事大家也都要支持, 这不就结了么? 还讲什么其他道理?
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: don't need to bullshit.
: the child was never in any danger.
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 40 One day you may face injustice in your life such as racism.
Don't believe that? just see how Japanese Americans was treated during WWII.
You will learn pretty quickly how lawful, fair and justice American system
really are.
case"
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: " American court give the mother more rights than the father in divorce case"
: 是事实.
: 但是这与"if the mother want full custody of her child she could get it"
: 是完全两回事.
: 你大概不明白physical custody与legal custody的差别.
: 其实说这么多没什么用. 你就是喜欢那儿自说自话, 先编一个你自己想
: 出来的男方的恶劣动机, 然后来借题发挥.
: 咱正常人, 是只根据事实说话. 事实是男方要制止女方没经他同意
: 带孩子离境的行为才报的警. 这个做法, 不但合法, 而且完全合情合理.
: 你再胡编人家是为什么这么做, 也不说明问题.
| | | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 41 if you don't take care of your own people, really there is nobody else will
care. | m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 42 您说这么半天, 说不出一句这女的哪里被"wrong"了的合理理由.
您给的理由, 不是您自个儿想象的, 以及与这女的犯的事完全无关的,
(象您说这男的是为了钱才要joint custody, 这男的是人渣);
就是完全不能当理由的理由(所谓好多不付抚养费的人照样没进监狱 - 这要
也成理由的话, 被人打了你也别去告了, 人家可以跟你说,
好多打人的人也没被警察抓)
您觉得不公平, 别人不觉得而已. 您该说明的是, 为什么这女的是
受了不公平对待;
而不是拼命自说自话, 这儿跟大伙儿解释为什么要去反对这个不公平.
您真能说明了不公平在哪儿, 您再解释大伙儿为什么应该去反对, 好么?
WWII.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: One day you may face injustice in your life such as racism.
: Don't believe that? just see how Japanese Americans was treated during WWII.
: You will learn pretty quickly how lawful, fair and justice American system
: really are.
:
: case"
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 43 请您先说明为什么这女的不该被抓.
否则您的意思就是您不管对错, 只要是中国人, 您就说他/她对.
will
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: if you don't take care of your own people, really there is nobody else will
: care.
| k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 44 这女的book的是one way ticket，母亲病重的理由也可能是编的，因为订票时间和她的
说法不符。
可能真就是打算一去不回了，这个就真是kidnapping了。 | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 45 I am done talking to you, you are not worth my time.
I will however say a few last words.
About 10 years ago, a black got beating by a few white cops for resisting
arrest, and black people went riots on the street, and white cops was
sentenced to jail and city paid millions of dollars.
A few days a black teenager got killed by a white cops for resisting arrest,
the news channel went over drive on that news and black people all
supported the teenager and his mom.
Now a Chinese women on her way to see her dying mother with her only son,
got turn back in middle air, throw in jail because some paper work, and some
Chinese here cheered on and call her names, saying that bitch deserved it.
What kind of slave and low life mentality is that? | m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 46 又来这套. 谁告诉你就是因为paper work的?
那她要是偷了谁的东西, 你是不是也可以说就差点paper work
- 只要对方写一份同意把东西给她的"paper work"?
咱不细抠法律条文, 就从你说的情理上来说, 父母双方中的一方,
在另一方明显不同意的情况下, 就想单独把孩子带出国, 不合适是显然的.
你是不是是非不分, 是你自个儿的事.
你来这儿混淆是非, 把错的说成对的, 就不是你自个儿的事了.
arrest,
some
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: I am done talking to you, you are not worth my time.
: I will however say a few last words.
: About 10 years ago, a black got beating by a few white cops for resisting
: arrest, and black people went riots on the street, and white cops was
: sentenced to jail and city paid millions of dollars.
: A few days a black teenager got killed by a white cops for resisting arrest,
: the news channel went over drive on that news and black people all
: supported the teenager and his mom.
: Now a Chinese women on her way to see her dying mother with her only son,
: got turn back in middle air, throw in jail because some paper work, and some
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 47 To make sure the justice is done is not your job or my job, there are Judges
, government, lawyers for that.
But to voice support to our own people regardless if she made a few mistakes
here or there, is our job.
I mean those black people who resisting arrest were serious crime, but
because they are treated badly, they got support from their people and they
are free and honored.
I don't see her crime is big at all, if she had time, I am sure she will get
the paperwork done, however, she is treated inhumanly.
Regardless, what she has done, we are minority people living here in the us,
when we facing prosecution from the majority race we need support each
other, or at rick of being eaten alive.
That's the real lesson here.
Let your voice being heard, shout, but don't shout against your own people
for one day you might need support from your people and there will be no one
to help you. | m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 48 你这算说了点实话 - "voice support to our own people regardless
if she made a few mistakes".
您一开始是这么说的么? 好象不是吧? 您动不动要把她说的好象没错似的.
我再说一遍, 她的问题不是那几张paperwork的问题. 不是说她到哪办一下
就能拿来那paperwork. 她的问题就是在于对一个她没有完全决定权的事情
自己单独做了决定, 而且还付之行动了. 其他有决定权的人反对, 于是出
现法律纠纷.
另外啊您这是在求人帮忙哪, 有点求人的态度好么?
先来骂一通您要求帮忙的人是"fool", (对不起, 我看肯定有不少人看不出
这是专门针对Chinese的, 那么您前面说了, 这些人都是fools)
您这是求人么您?
Judges
mistakes
they
get
us,
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: To make sure the justice is done is not your job or my job, there are Judges
: , government, lawyers for that.
: But to voice support to our own people regardless if she made a few mistakes
: here or there, is our job.
: I mean those black people who resisting arrest were serious crime, but
: because they are treated badly, they got support from their people and they
: are free and honored.
: I don't see her crime is big at all, if she had time, I am sure she will get
: the paperwork done, however, she is treated inhumanly.
: Regardless, what she has done, we are minority people living here in the us,
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 49 You sound like a pre-law student. I hope you have a bright future. But you
treat law as God, but law is not God, for we created law, not law created
us. Laws are design to serve the general need of the people. We should put
humanity first, not the law above humanity.
I have no relationship with that poor lady. I don't know her. But some of
my friend's friends know her.
Let me tell you a true story.
While I was second year in College, I met this girl from China, she was poor
just like me and working at her uncle's restaurant.
One day she went to have driving test and failed. She was somewhat upset
and thinking about that test while went to a grocery store to pickup a
toothpaste or tooth brush.
Because she was thinking to intensely she forgot to pay and walk out with
the tooth brush.
This is a small mistake. If a white girl did it, they probably just say
excuse me, lady you forgot to pay. And she would just say ops, I am sorry.
But they called the police instead. So police came and took her, handcuffed
her, took her to the station.
And in the station, they humiliated her, saying if you are caught stealing
in China, what will they do to you? They will probably hand you or cut your
hands off, right?
So don't ever think that Americans are so honest and fair.
Deep inside they are ruthless, arrogant, very racially biased and
discrimination.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 你这算说了点实话 - "voice support to our own people regardless
: if she made a few mistakes".
: 您一开始是这么说的么? 好象不是吧? 您动不动要把她说的好象没错似的.
: 我再说一遍, 她的问题不是那几张paperwork的问题. 不是说她到哪办一下
: 就能拿来那paperwork. 她的问题就是在于对一个她没有完全决定权的事情
: 自己单独做了决定, 而且还付之行动了. 其他有决定权的人反对, 于是出
: 现法律纠纷.
: 另外啊您这是在求人帮忙哪, 有点求人的态度好么?
: 先来骂一通您要求帮忙的人是"fool", (对不起, 我看肯定有不少人看不出
: 这是专门针对Chinese的, 那么您前面说了, 这些人都是fools)
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 50 麻烦您有事说事, 别总爱借题发挥. 您现在就是这样, 举出一个您认为
是歧视中国人的例子. 您下面那偷牙膏的例子是可能有对中国人的歧视,
问题是, 您想说什么? 您想大家帮那个不小心偷牙膏的女孩么?
显然不是. 您真正想说的是您顶楼提的这个风马牛不相及的事, 您想说那
也是歧视中国人.
您这就是侮辱大家的智慧了.
您要跟大伙儿说, 美国存在种族歧视. 没问题, 大部分人大概同意.
您要说, 因为美国存在种族歧视. 所以能帮中国人就该帮中国人, 所以
这个案子应该帮中国人. 您也可以这么说, 别人可能同意, 可能不同意,
可以讨论.
可您不. 您非要说: 这个案子就是针对中国人.
对不起, 没事实说明这个.
you
put
of
poor
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: You sound like a pre-law student. I hope you have a bright future. But you
: treat law as God, but law is not God, for we created law, not law created
: us. Laws are design to serve the general need of the people. We should put
: humanity first, not the law above humanity.
: I have no relationship with that poor lady. I don't know her. But some of
: my friend's friends know her.
: Let me tell you a true story.
: While I was second year in College, I met this girl from China, she was poor
: just like me and working at her uncle's restaurant.
: One day she went to have driving test and failed. She was somewhat upset
| | | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 51 You must have a knife or a gun over your head to proof that you are in
danger then that's you.
I see a small problem, then I will watch out for myself and my people,
before the problem gets big.
Black people didn't get here, by sitting around do nothing.
You suggest that we agree with whites, and side with the law, punish our own
people for a small mistake, but she did it because she want to see her
mother in death bed and let her mother see her son. This is human and noble
. You have no proof that she won't bring the boy back.
You are arguing because you just want to be right.
I am sorry I disagree you in law, logic, or humanity. Although, I have been
here more than 27 years. I fully understand the need to be with the parent
on their death bed.
It's noble and honor to do it, the mistake is not get proper paper work done.
If I were her I do it with no regret.
Let's just stop here, agree to disagree.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 麻烦您有事说事, 别总爱借题发挥. 您现在就是这样, 举出一个您认为
: 是歧视中国人的例子. 您下面那偷牙膏的例子是可能有对中国人的歧视,
: 问题是, 您想说什么? 您想大家帮那个不小心偷牙膏的女孩么?
: 显然不是. 您真正想说的是您顶楼提的这个风马牛不相及的事, 您想说那
: 也是歧视中国人.
: 您这就是侮辱大家的智慧了.
: 您要跟大伙儿说, 美国存在种族歧视. 没问题, 大部分人大概同意.
: 您要说, 因为美国存在种族歧视. 所以能帮中国人就该帮中国人, 所以
: 这个案子应该帮中国人. 您也可以这么说, 别人可能同意, 可能不同意,
: 可以讨论.
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 52 "I see a small problem, then I will watch out for myself and my people,
before the problem gets big."
您这话没问题.
您的问题是, 您还说了很多有问题的话. 比如您说您顶楼这案子就是
明显针对中国人的, 不这么想的就是傻子.
比如您前面还说这女的没什么错.
您这些话不说, 效果会好得多.
至于您为什么说这些话, 我就不知道了. 如果您是认真的, 那么我只能认为您
是认为仅仅讲正理不能说服人, 所以要拿些您自己改造出来的歪理来再加强
点说服力.
很遗憾, 效果正好相反.
own
noble
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: You must have a knife or a gun over your head to proof that you are in
: danger then that's you.
: I see a small problem, then I will watch out for myself and my people,
: before the problem gets big.
: Black people didn't get here, by sitting around do nothing.
: You suggest that we agree with whites, and side with the law, punish our own
: people for a small mistake, but she did it because she want to see her
: mother in death bed and let her mother see her son. This is human and noble
: . You have no proof that she won't bring the boy back.
: You are arguing because you just want to be right.
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 53 I don't have to prove anything, because I am not under court of law to prove
her guilty or innocent.
I am just voice my concern, so people will pay attention, notice some
problem.
I am also want to voice my support for her.
You on the other hand are way to serious, like we are in court arguing if
she is guilty or not.
Like I said, that's not my job here.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: "I see a small problem, then I will watch out for myself and my people,
: before the problem gets big."
: 您这话没问题.
: 您的问题是, 您还说了很多有问题的话. 比如您说您顶楼这案子就是
: 明显针对中国人的, 不这么想的就是傻子.
: 比如您前面还说这女的没什么错.
: 您这些话不说, 效果会好得多.
: 至于您为什么说这些话, 我就不知道了. 如果您是认真的, 那么我只能认为您
: 是认为仅仅讲正理不能说服人, 所以要拿些您自己改造出来的歪理来再加强
: 点说服力.
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 54 当然您不需要证明她无罪. 您说话也用不着那么严密.
问题是, 您说话太激烈了. 一事先上纲上线到针对中国人, 然后
骂这个是傻子, 骂那个是人渣.
自然, 煽动无知人群, 这种激烈的话语可能更有效.
但对愿意思考一下的人们来说, 您这种说话只能招致反感以及
对您话中细节的注意 - 注意的结果就是, 很多细节其实是
站不住脚的.
prove
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: I don't have to prove anything, because I am not under court of law to prove
: her guilty or innocent.
: I am just voice my concern, so people will pay attention, notice some
: problem.
: I am also want to voice my support for her.
: You on the other hand are way to serious, like we are in court arguing if
: she is guilty or not.
: Like I said, that's not my job here.
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 55 She is now free, the Judge had compassion on her.
She bought round trip ticket. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 56 Some guys here are very cruel call her names, and they do deserve to be
called 人渣.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: 当然您不需要证明她无罪. 您说话也用不着那么严密.
: 问题是, 您说话太激烈了. 一事先上纲上线到针对中国人, 然后
: 骂这个是傻子, 骂那个是人渣.
: 自然, 煽动无知人群, 这种激烈的话语可能更有效.
: 但对愿意思考一下的人们来说, 您这种说话只能招致反感以及
: 对您话中细节的注意 - 注意的结果就是, 很多细节其实是
: 站不住脚的.
:
: prove
| l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 57
刘女士你有时间在mitbbs闹，不如去找个好律师。还有如果要发帖找支持找同情，用中
文比拽半通不通的英文效果要好。
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: Some guys here are very cruel call her names, and they do deserve to be
: called 人渣.
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 58 本来就是个小case, 这样的结果是可以预见的.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: She is now free, the Judge had compassion on her.
: She bought round trip ticket.
| m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 59 您回去看看您的贴子, 您骂的只是您说的
"Some guys here are very cruel call her names"这些人么?
不要避重就轻.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: Some guys here are very cruel call her names, and they do deserve to be
: called 人渣.
|
|
