I****J 发帖数: 516 | 1 今天下午晚间,国防部将对此时进行新闻发布会
我个人人为应该是8月1日下水, 而不是10月1日
欧美媒体预测也是建军节 | I****J 发帖数: 516 | 2 网络最近有句话,忘记怎么说了
8月1日看航空母舰,
8月2日向美国要债
笑死了
【在 I****J 的大作中提到】 : 今天下午晚间,国防部将对此时进行新闻发布会 : 我个人人为应该是8月1日下水, 而不是10月1日 : 欧美媒体预测也是建军节
| s***t 发帖数: 13743 | 3 还不起债的话咱能找他们要俩航空母舰吗
【在 I****J 的大作中提到】 : 网络最近有句话,忘记怎么说了 : 8月1日看航空母舰, : 8月2日向美国要债 : 笑死了
| I****J 发帖数: 516 | 4 不可能,还不起,就不还了, 要不来了
中国第二个航空母舰也在制造中
这种大船好贵哦, 好几千亿, 一个国家能有5个就很负担过重了
【在 s***t 的大作中提到】 : 还不起债的话咱能找他们要俩航空母舰吗
| I****J 发帖数: 516 | 5 八一建军节即将来临,国内外媒体和公众最为关心的,自然是中国首艘航母是否下水?
就在这个万众瞩目的时候,我们看到了凤凰网军事频道的一篇重要文章:《少将指瓦良
格意义堪比两弹一星》。在这一篇文章中,海军少将、原海军装备技术部部长郑明在接
受财新《新世纪》专访时说,“首艘航母的作用不亚于‘两弹一星’,它对捍卫我们国
家的海洋权益,乃至影响世界战略格局都有重大意义。”
“航母的重要意义不是性能好或者差的问题,而是从无到有的问题。” | I****J 发帖数: 516 | 6 最近一段时间以来,包括谷歌在内的国外卫星曝光中国大连瓦良格航母,称中国军方对
瓦良格进些了重大的改动,种种情况目前还不明朗,日本媒体前段时间曾曝出瓦良格进
行了自动力航行,甲板目前也在进行重大改动。
据最新媒体报道,瓦良格甲板整修后,舰载机数量比以前大幅度增加。 | I****J 发帖数: 516 | 7 美国“中国防务新闻网”26日援引消息人士的话称,中国国防部可能将在明天(7月27
日)举行的例行新闻发布会上正式对外公开航母项目。此前,北京官方一直拒绝对外透
露有关航母的信息,仅在今年6月份,有港台媒体引述解放军总参谋长陈炳德的话称,
中国正在翻新一艘前苏联航母。
中国国防部从今年4月开始定期举行新闻发布会,以此塑造军事透明的正面形象。香港
媒体今年6月曾述解放军总参谋长陈炳德将军的话称,中国正在翻新一艘300米长的苏联
航母,但相关工作尚未完成。还有消息称航母最早将于6月底下,但很明显这一期限已
经延迟。
今年7月中旬,在美国参谋长联席会议主席迈克·马伦访华期间,陈炳德将军则以“媒
体已经报道很多”为由,拒绝对外透露关于中国航母的信息。马伦意有所指地表示,中
国的第一艘航母具有“很大的象征意义”,“实际能力与象征意义之间总是存在一定的
距离”。
另据美国政府及外交消息人士透露,中国已经开始建造其首艘国产航母。美国国防部发
布的2010年度中国军力报告称,未来10年内,中国将能够运行两艘或者更多航母。据信
,中国国产航母将会采用包括电磁拦阻器在内的一些新概念技术。 | I****J 发帖数: 516 | 8 日本《日本人》引述“中国某军事和造船产业业内人士”的话称,解放军将于2009年开
工建造两艘排水量5~6万吨的航空母舰,并将于2015年完工下水,这两艘航母的建造工
作将交由位于长兴岛的上海造船新厂负责。除此之外,中国海军从乌克兰购买的废弃航
母“瓦良格”号目前也正在大连造船厂接受改造和整修。《日本人》称,后两艘航母的
排水量仍将为60000吨左右,将采用核动力推进系统,该系统的技术源自俄罗斯未完工
的 “乌里扬诺夫斯克”号核动力航母。
《日本人》指出,中国已经获得了 “乌里扬诺夫斯克”号航母的设计图纸,该航母是
前苏联计划建造的第一艘核动力航空母舰,被命名为1153型,其尺寸与 “尼米兹”级
相当,但前苏联的***使其未及完工即遭拆毁。1153型的满载排水量高达78000吨,能够
搭载至少60架战斗机和直升机。尤其值得注意的是,该型航母首次设计安装了蒸汽弹射
器。
出现在互联网上的照片则显示,“瓦良格”号的舰艏部分和远程反舰导弹垂直发射系统
已经被拆除。如果这是为了扩容,那么“瓦良格”号的舰载机数量有可能会提高1/3,
即从22架苏-33提高到28~30架。 | I****J 发帖数: 516 | 9 Wall Street Journal ASIA NEWS JULY 27, 2011, 12:09 P.M. ET
China Says Aircraft Carrier Only for Research, Training
BEIJING—China's Defense Ministry said its first aircraft carrier would be
used for "research, experiments and training" and would not affect its
defensive naval strategy, in an apparent attempt to ease regional concerns
that the vessel could be used to enforce Chinese territorial claims.
Senior Col. Geng Yansheng, a Defense Ministry spokesman, also confirmed for
the first time that Chinese pilots were training to operate from the carrier
, which is based on an empty hull bought from Ukraine, and which is due to
start sea trials this summer. But he said it would take a long time to
become fully operational.
"Building an aircraft carrier is extremely complex and at present we are
using a scrapped aircraft carrier platform to carry out refurbishment for
the purposes of technological research, experiments and training," Col. Geng
said, according to a Chinese transcript of a monthly Defense Ministry news
conference published on its web site.
Asked about media reports that the vessel would be launched on Aug. 1, China
's Army Day, he said: "There is not a question of when this ship is launched
, because it has been in the water all along. As for the precise timetable
for the ship beginning sea trials, it will be decided according to the
schedule of the refurbishment project."
He also dismissed a question suggesting that China's sudden relative
openness about the carrier was linked to recent tensions in the South China
Sea, where China has conflicting territorial claims with Vietnam, the
Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia and Brunei, and has warned the U.S. to stop
reconnaissance operations.
"To construct and use a carrier requires the integration of various types of
weaponry, and requires synergy in every area," Col. Geng said. "This will
be a long and slow process."
A Chinese company purchased the empty hull of a carrier called the Varyag
from Ukraine in 1998, on the understanding that it would be used as a
floating casino, but it was later towed to the northeastern port of Dalian,
where it has been undergoing refurbishment ever since.
China's plans to reactivate the carrier for its navy have been known for
years. The vessel is easily visible from parts of Dalian and photographs and
video footage of the refurbishing have been published online.
But China did not officially confirm its plans until earlier this month,
when Gen. Cheng Bingde, the Chief of General Staff of the People's
Liberation Army, spoke about it at a news conference after meeting Mike
Mullen, the U.S. chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in Beijing. Gen.
Chen did not, however, say how China planned to use the carrier.
The vessel is significant as it will give China, for the first time, the
theoretical ability to project air power far from its shores, as well as
providing crucial experience for developing its own, larger indigenous
carriers, the first of which some defense experts say is already under
construction.
It would take China several decades to match the U.S.'s current carrier
fleet of 11, but Beijing only needs a few to enhance its ability to deny U.S
. forces access to waters around China in the event of a regional conflict,
or to protect its shipping lanes and other perceived national interests
overseas.
To be effective, at least two or three carriers are required, so that at
least one can remain active while another undergoes repairs, and each active
one requires its own carrier group including several other vessels,
according to Chinese and foreign defense experts.
For the moment, therefore, they say the Varyag—which has yet to be renamed
—will likely be used mainly to test equipment and train personnel,
especially pilots who must learn to take off from and land on the carrier
while it is moving.
Some also say that it could be used for limited patrols around China's
territorial waters, as well as visits to foreign countries to try to enhance
military relations and help them grow accustomed to China's newfound naval
strength.
Col. Geng said that a carrier could be used for offensive or defensive
purposes as well as for disaster relief, and that China was pursuing its
carrier program "in order to increase its ability to protect national
security and world peace."
"China's firm adherence to a defensive national defense policy will not
change because of the development of advanced weapons," he said. "China's
naval strategy of inshore defense also has not changed."
Col. Geng declined to provide further details.
But the state-run Xinhua news agency quoted Cao Weidong, a researcher with
the PLA Navy's Academic Research Institute, as saying that China's first
carrier was a conventionally-powered medium-sized carrier equipped with
indigenous Chinese engines, ship-borne aircraft, radar and other hardware. | I****J 发帖数: 516 | 10 WO KAO, delay again ???
Asked about media reports that the vessel would be launched on Aug. 1, China
's Army Day, he said: "There is not a question of when this ship is launched
, because it has been in the water all along. As for the precise timetable
for the ship beginning sea trials, it will be decided according to the
schedule of the refurbishment project." | d*b 发帖数: 21830 | 11 土鳖国的第一首航爹叫“成功”号。8月1日还是比较赶的。不过也不是不可能。
China
launched
【在 I****J 的大作中提到】 : WO KAO, delay again ??? : Asked about media reports that the vessel would be launched on Aug. 1, China : 's Army Day, he said: "There is not a question of when this ship is launched : , because it has been in the water all along. As for the precise timetable : for the ship beginning sea trials, it will be decided according to the : schedule of the refurbishment project."
| I****J 发帖数: 516 | 12 大厦威武, 成功”号都揪出来了
80%下周1粉墨登场
近期,国内外网络、媒体疯传中国首艘航母将于“8月1日下水试航”、“部署在南海”
、“命名为毛泽东号,郑和号、中山号、昆仑山号等等”,其实皆为国内外专家、军迷
之猜测和谬传。据圈内人士透露,中国首艘航空母舰的命名、试航、部署安排论证工作
早已经完成,其命名、试航日期和部署海域早已经确定。
首先,关于中国首艘航母的试航问题。
其一,中国的首艘航母早在乌克兰就已经“下水”,因此不存在“下水”问题,只
有“试航或首航”的问题。
其二,中国的首艘航母试航日期确定为“2011年8月1日中国人民解放军建军节”,
她是中国军事装备建设的转折点和里程碑,也是中国人民解放军军事历史的转折点和里
程碑。
其次,关于中国首艘航母的部署问题。论证认为:一是部署南海。但是,南海海
域地形复杂,海、陆、空掩护和配合力量相对薄弱,长期驻扎南海易受隐蔽攻击或突然
袭击。况且,南海海域相对狭窄,航空母舰回旋的余地相对较小,不利于航空母舰策应
东海和黄海的军事行动和军事部署,不利于航空母舰拓展战略空间。此外还有最重要的
一点,那就是南海海域争议较大,矛盾错综复杂,中国首艘航母部署南海针对性太强,
容易激化南海业已存在的紧张局势。二是部署黄海。虽然黄海海域海、陆、空掩护和配
合力量占有绝对优势,但是显得保守、退缩和胆小,而且容易被敌人封锁于黄海海域,
不利于控制东海海域,也不利于前出南海海域。
论证确定,中国首艘航空母舰将部署东海海域。其优势在于:一是东海海域的海
、陆、空协防与配合力量相对较强。二是有利于和其他陆海空力量协同控制东海海域。
三是可以扼守黄海海域、前出可以突破第一岛链、南下可以应对南海局势,进可攻、退
可守,左右逢源。
第三,关于中国首艘航母的命名问题。论证认为:一是用城市或数字命名,如“北
京号”、“上海号”、“877号”、“888号”等等,那就将航空母舰和一般军舰相混同
,不能反映航空母舰与一般军舰综合作战能力之代差。二是用政治名词命名,如“自由
号”、“民主号”、“平等号”、“和谐号”等等,这与我国当前国力极不相称,当前
我国尚不具备实现国际自由、民主、平等的能力,甚至连自身的自由、民主、平等权力
都无法保障。因此,用这些政治名词命名中国航母,名不符实,失之于虚。况且,航空
母舰本身就是进攻性作战平台,它与自由、民主、平等、和谐等华丽词汇格格不入。再
者,用这些政治名词命名中国航母还会授人以柄、作茧自缚,敌人会拿我们“自由号”
、“和谐号”航母之名攻击我军事行动不民主、不和谐。三是用名山命名,如“昆仑山
号、秦岭号、黄山号、泰山号、天山号”等等。用名山命名航空母舰优势很多,她有固
若金汤、稳如泰山之意,符合周易八卦阴阳和谐(水为阴,山为阳)之意,而且这些名
山大川又是其他国家极少拥有的。但是,用名山命名航空母舰,她反映的意义是守势,
不能反映航空母舰主要是进攻性武器的攻势特点,她反映的是不容易被击沉的耐受性,
不能反映航空母舰的机动性和综合作战能力,她体现更多的是固态的东西,不能充分体
现航空母舰的军魂和灵魂。
论证确定,中国航母将用政治军事方面的历史名人命名,中国的首艘航空母舰将
被命名为“成功号”。其论证理由如下:
(一)郑成功是两岸人民和世界华人公认的民族英雄,他既是抗击倭寇的民族英雄,又
是打败荷兰侵略者,收复台湾的民族英雄,他是两岸人民和全世界华人都能接受的历史
名人。
(二)如前所述,郑成功既是抗击倭寇的民族英雄,又是收复台湾的民族英雄,因此,
“成功号”既有抵御外来侵略之意,又意含两岸统一之前景。
(三)“成功”一词本身就寓意首艘航母和中华民族美好的未来和光明的前景。
(四)由于我们不能用代表一个国家的领袖人物(如毛泽东、孙中山、秦始皇、成吉思
汗等)来命名一艘外来航母,以免被人耻笑,也免得落下历史笑柄。而用郑成功的名字
命名则可以避免这一点。
【在 d*b 的大作中提到】 : 土鳖国的第一首航爹叫“成功”号。8月1日还是比较赶的。不过也不是不可能。 : : China : launched
| m**i 发帖数: 8296 | 13 为虾米不是
南海号
黄河号
长江号
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