w**********k
发帖数: 1135 | 1 This is Nietzsche. Looks cool.
Louise von Salome was born February 12, 1861, in St. Petersburg, Russia. "Her
birth coincided almost to the day with one of the major events in Russian
history: the emancipation of the serfs. . . [thus] Lou was born under the
rising star of freedom." (Peters, 29) Her father, General Gustav von Salome,
was at the top of his profession, having well served the Romanovs. The Salomes
occupied an apartment in the building of the General Staff, across from the
Winter Pala |
p*******r
发帖数: 4048 | 2 that
When
was
Jules
of a
front of
the
what
Yes, I think the chinese translation is wrong. I strongly emphathize with
Nietzsche. :) Free thinking, free loving women are highly dangerous. |
m*****a
发帖数: 120 | 3 Nietzsche looks fat actually.
To nail down a relationship with Nietzsche, wisdom should be more important
than face. In Salome's eyes, you can find that extrodinary quality.
"Her
Salomes
a
and
fact,
Schopenhauer,
the
this
kind
matter
not
【在 w**********k 的大作中提到】
: This is Nietzsche. Looks cool.
: Louise von Salome was born February 12, 1861, in St. Petersburg, Russia. "Her
: birth coincided almost to the day with one of the major events in Russian
: history: the emancipation of the serfs. . . [thus] Lou was born under the
: rising star of freedom." (Peters, 29) Her father, General Gustav von Salome,
: was at the top of his profession, having well served the Romanovs. The Salomes
: occupied an apartment in the building of the General Staff, across from the
: Winter Pala
|
m*****a
发帖数: 120 | 4
the
wrote,
If I can, I am willing to sacrifice 30 years of life time to become
dangerous like that.
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: that
: When
: was
: Jules
: of a
: front of
: the
: what
: Yes, I think the chinese translation is wrong. I strongly emphathize with
: Nietzsche. :) Free thinking, free loving women are highly dangerous.
|
p*******r
发帖数: 4048 | 5 Well, the free thinking part is nice but free loving part I do not admire so
much. Again, salome is probably not a first rate writer in her own rights yet.
But back in those days, there were probably not so many women like salome and
one like that probably arouses a lot of interest in those so-called male
intellectuals. :)
Us God fearing citizens only cringe at the sight of women like that. |
w**********k
发帖数: 1135 | 6 呵呵，看看俺们老乡小小。
古代文人与此等人物的关系，以前看过一个评论，觉得颇为公正：在封建社会，没有自由
爱情可言，
文人们便在秦馆楚驿寻找精神寄托。大致如此，大致如此。
另外，古龙兄说过：女人，也只有女人，才会认为女人的脑子比脸对于男人来说
更重要 :-) |
w**********k
发帖数: 1135 | 7 hehe, you don't need to.
LOOK has a very good shot to be next Freud :-)
【在 m*****a 的大作中提到】
:
: the
: wrote,
: If I can, I am willing to sacrifice 30 years of life time to become
: dangerous like that.
|
m*****a
发帖数: 120 | 8 Which one do you prefer-- a free lover + a free thinker or just a free
thinker? Hypocrite says they prefer the later, only.
People can termporarily forget how messy his/her own thoughts are and how
boring her/his own love is by judging some others morale. Judging, itself is a
lot of fun:P
But I do agree with you that Salome may be a second-rank writer--her book is
out of print long time ago. She probably is forgotten by all publishers.
with
yet.
and
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: Well, the free thinking part is nice but free loving part I do not admire so
: much. Again, salome is probably not a first rate writer in her own rights yet.
: But back in those days, there were probably not so many women like salome and
: one like that probably arouses a lot of interest in those so-called male
: intellectuals. :)
: Us God fearing citizens only cringe at the sight of women like that.
|
m*****a
发帖数: 120 | 9 If that is the case, I will extend my pre-cut life expectance to 130 years.
Then I will not lose anything after this vow.
with
【在 w**********k 的大作中提到】
: hehe, you don't need to.
: LOOK has a very good shot to be next Freud :-)
|
p*******r
发帖数: 4048 | 10
I prefer one who is a free thinker and only loves me. But my own experience
leads me to the conclusion that free thinkers think too much and can easily
degenerate into free lovers. :)
【在 m*****a 的大作中提到】
: Which one do you prefer-- a free lover + a free thinker or just a free
: thinker? Hypocrite says they prefer the later, only.
: People can termporarily forget how messy his/her own thoughts are and how
: boring her/his own love is by judging some others morale. Judging, itself is a
: lot of fun:P
: But I do agree with you that Salome may be a second-rank writer--her book is
: out of print long time ago. She probably is forgotten by all publishers.
:
: with
: yet.
|
p*******r
发帖数: 4048 | 11 I once told the story to a friend and he was highly amused by this part:
The situation of Nietzsche's developing relationship with Lou Salome could not
have been more complex and less auspicious. Paul Ree had already had ample
time to fall in love with Lou himself. Nietzsche clearly fell in love with her
immediately. Meanwhile, Lou herself seems to have wanted only to remain
outside of Russia for as long as possible and to enjoy the attention of
artists and intellectuals. Nietzsche asked Ree to |
m*****a
发帖数: 120 | 12 I totally understand your interest in being a black hole which attacts only
free thinkers. But in reality, most people cannot even capture the whole
energy field of a mutated free lover. If you go on with this
mistake-generating free-thinker-hunting process, you are likely to wind up
with no thought, no feeling, only complete self-degeneration.
Anyway, talking about free lover will not make me a free thinker. I am gonna
stop here and give no more comments on this issue.
It was a lot of fun.haha
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: I once told the story to a friend and he was highly amused by this part:
: The situation of Nietzsche's developing relationship with Lou Salome could not
: have been more complex and less auspicious. Paul Ree had already had ample
: time to fall in love with Lou himself. Nietzsche clearly fell in love with her
: immediately. Meanwhile, Lou herself seems to have wanted only to remain
: outside of Russia for as long as possible and to enjoy the attention of
: artists and intellectuals. Nietzsche asked Ree to
|
m*****a
发帖数: 120 | 13
发信人: puppeteer (苦禅), 信区: America
标 题: Re: LOU SALOME
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Sun Oct 5 16:25:07 2003) WWW-POST
I prefer one who is a free thinker and only loves me. But my own experience
leads me to the conclusion that free thinkers think too much and can easily
degenerate into free lovers. :)
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